Help on mount purchase?

If at all possible, I'd like to have one mount of each type of reasonable quality - 'reasonable' being 'equivalent in strength to my horse, which used to be a 35/35 Chestnut and is now 1.1k Potential'. I've looked at the wiki guide on how mounts work now, and from what I can tell, the system is now extremely fluid; instead of being dice rolls, breeding involves purchasing Fruman crafting materials, stuffing them in the enclosure, and checking back every six hours for about a week until limits are maxed. There are no clean, differentiated ranks.

...so, what should my criteria be for Buying A Wyvern And (Later) An Adasaur. I know there's scams on the market. Should I just check for items identified as having 1-1.2k Potential? What's the pricing here?

 

Two things-
You don't feed them crafting materials, rather gathering materials (grain, oil, wood, etc.) which each buff the limits 2-3 state up to the max, and you can only feed them materials that are less than or equal to the limit (limit of 44 can be fed a a material to raise it that is level 1-40, but not a level 50 material).
You get the actual buffs to the mount itself, such as speed and jump height by riding around and collecting power ups that cost 2 energy each. These raise the level.

The second thing is that a single breeding cycle mount (around 480 potential (240 base potential parent +240 base potential parent)) costs a little bit less than a stack of LE rn, so you can guess the price of a 1k potential mount from that. This level can be reached by feesing 28 level one gathering materials (14 per parent; the exact ones are on the mega thread) and less than a week of feeding them once a day and a day to breed. TLDR for buying: mounts are very expensive right now, breed your own. And you'll save upwards of 200k emeralds even if you buy the gathering materials.

 

...Wow, the prices shot up. I should definitely find a price for my old converted Black Horses, then.

You only need to level one mount for breeding, right? You feed them both but only level one?

 

Yes 10chars

 

I have a 1/30 across the board 240 Potential Wyvern, and a 30/30 across the board 240 Potential Wyvern. I put the latter in the main slot and the former in the food slot, right?

After this, what will I have? I suspect it won't compare to my 1.1k potential Chestnut, so... will I have to do this process again? Using high-level ingredients will make it substantially faster, and I won't need to train the parents... honestly, I'll just get on that immediately.

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To get +20 across the board, what do I need?

If I use level 60 materials... one Cobalt Ingot, one Koi Meat, and one Dark Paper will produce 0/8/20/28/0/20/8/0. Add Millet Grains, 20/8/28/28/0/20/8/0. Add Koi Oil, 20/8/32/28/15/20/8/9.

...Whatever. One of everything at level 50 or above.

 

...Right, that doesn't work. Very annoying.

I've gone and bought two more basic wyverns, under the intent to level them to 30, breed them, level the result, then breed that with my main wyvern. My main is Infernal-Cinder; this is Wyv2. Wyv1 is Azure-Cinder; Wyv3 is Golden-Tusk; Wyv4 is Ebony-Kander. Are any of these colors remarkable? I have the impression that Mystic is the rarest.

 

None are rare but imo ebony is one of the better looking, which honestly is what should matter more. You can usually find all of the non-rare ones on the market for cheaper than the merchant sells them for, and you can be selective with those. As long as you aren't looking for jade, fledge, or mystic, you can probably (with a bit of waiting and searching) get enough of whatever color you want to breed a ~1k potential mount for around 1.5-2 le total. There is a fairly optimal process for feeding the first generation (listed on the mount info collection thread somewhere), but after that you kinda have to optimize feedings individually.

 

I've been following the first-gen feed process thus far. Will keep in mind that I can probably get these cheaper at TM.

...I really hate that I have to be in Bantisu for this process. For a week!

 

A random other post has revealed to me that the average improvement in one generation is +240. This is curious, as it means that, to get from my starting wyverns (240) to my desired ending horse (~1000), I'd need four generations, aka sixteen wyverns. This sounds excruciating, but I do have three slots in my feeder, so I'd better get started. 4/16 thus far... oh, where will I store them all.

 

I've been going thorugh the motions and found a maxed out Generation 2 wyvern is within a speed range that's not slow but "comfy" if that makes sense. Generation 3 (8 wyverns) is currently cooking rn and I think that is within range of effective for the average player to feel faster than movement spells, which should numerically compare to converted Black horses (Potential is 640 i believe, verses Chestnuts at 960, and imo my chestnut is almost too fast for my tastes). I however am fortunate I had a stint attempting to level my gathering a long time ago so I'm able to gather materials up to Lv. 30 myself (most are insta-mined too), sell the 2 and 3 star drops and use those funds to buy materials that are higher in level past that, and have a mostly junk high-level character to retire at Banistu for all this, so my experience might be easier than most others. Definitely get that modpack from Onlius, they added the automatic feed calculator which will help once you've exceeded the G1 simple guide, granted it doesn't back-port options, only what is current or next in level (IE if your highest skill is 52 but your max is 74, it will only give you options that use lv 50, 60, and 70 materials, even if mathematically a lv 1 or 10 will suffice at the end).

Overall, treat this process like laundry; A lot more waiting and doing other things with small bursts of relevant work inbetween. 3 slots at 6 hours/material gives you a chance to fill the stable before bed and after work/school give-or-take and not think about it once you're at generation 2. You are also able to destory flutes you aren't using to clear inventory.

 

I have 5 slots for food and 3 slots for mount, so it's easier for me.

 

Beyond the one guy who is selling maxed-out fledges i've seen fresh-from-merchant fledges for the average ish price, just Jade and Mystic have been the priciest of the colors. I would also like to add that given the horse skins that are disabled it wouldn't surprise me if once those are turned on there'll be skins for all mounts or the zombie/skeleton skins become universal, so I would be hesitent to overly invest in a specific high-value color in fear of a skin to release being superior down the road.

Misunderstood, I was aware there were differences in ranked and unranked players in the stables, i thought it was in feed that could be lined up not the amount of mounts in the stable.

 

Fledge and Jade are pretty rare at average prices. Fledge is averaging around 10 le last I checked; Jade is generally about 5. Mystic seems to be whatever someone thinks they can get. I've got 2 jades and 1 fledge in the 16 eb range so far, and have yet to find more, which is annoying because I like the jade skin and I'm trying to get a couple of fledge to breed a good one for a friend.

 

I’ve yet to see a jade that wasn’t renamed to Jade for easy search and upcharge in the 7-le range, and a small stash of Fledges in the 14-block range. Maybe I’m just slow to them when listed, or misremembering, but I’ll keep an eye out knowing this, I have a gen 2 fledge that's got 4 mats until limits are at max if you're interested in trading. Wife wants a jade herself and I’m cautious to spending what I’ve been lead to believe is their price point given what I said about potential skins.

Edit: Speak of the devil and he appears; 22 mins later and found a Jade for 9 blocks lol. guess i need to complain more

 

Yeah, every so often one will pop up. You just kinda have to be on and looking at the right time.

 

Honestly, the leveling process kind of sucks. It's worse than usual because there's a queue, so you can't use sleep as a justification for losing feeding hours - you can have a lot of food on the mount at a time, you have to keep refilling.