Guild Feeding Rules Clarification (mods Read Plz)

What's stopping the other guilds from making an alliance?

 

You guys never learn ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Ridiculous that you think our opinions are bias, it's like no matter how hard we try to defend ourselves, you will always tell us to go away because your opinions are saint. Whatever... let's wait and see what will happen next

 

Everyone has bias in their opinions. I’ve noticed that the majority of people arguing against us are the ones that attack our alliance regularly. Do you see us constantly calling them biased? No, because even though it’s true since everyone has bias, we still respect their opinion and don’t just try to discredit it like you do.

 

Nice way to nitpick people's arguments rather than actually form a constructive counter argument

also dont just go around locking other people's threads
also also

wow wonder whats been on the front page for the last four days

 

hello im still here remember me yes no ok
i just got bored of guilds and my build cant do shit on wars anymore
so i gave the leadership to someone else (@Nitrogen2Oxygen ) because as i said before, i got kinda bored of wynn and my build doesnt work anymore

but im still here i didnt disappear

 

You can continue putting words in peoples mouths if you want, with your satire, and relatively toxic attitude or you can come up with some substantive arguments with actual substance to them that add to the conversation. No one is saying their opinion is saint, and the fact that you are denying that Fed opinions will be bias (on a matter than can potentially negatively impact their alliance), is "Ridiculous".

Fed members are naturally going to be excessively bias when it's a matter concerning their own alliance. Read the last few pages and you will clearly see an occasional person stating their opinion and multiple Fed members replying shutting them down every time. Of course this is going to happen, it's fairly obvious that Fed will defend themselves, and there is nothing wrong with that. Unfortunately his thread has turned into a bashing fest instead of a productive debate/discussion. No where did I discredit your opinion or disrespect it, I stated the facts and you know it.

If I wanted to form a constructive argument and state a rebuttal I would have. I simply picked a very ignorant close minded statement in his argument and commented on it. Thanks though.

I can see it was a mistake rejoining this conversation. Sigh. Let the bashing ensue.

 

I like drama please continue guys.

 

By repeatedly calling to attention the bias that Fed members hold, it is clear to everyone that you believe the opinions of Fed members here shouldn't be valued as much as the opinions of others. And yes, when someone voices an opinion here that is contrary to what we believe and what would be best for the community, why wouldn't Fed members come in and explain why they believe their opinion is right? Isn't that what everyone does in a debate such as this one? Surely you cannot be serious.

 

When there's people arguing for deleting something that's taken months of effort to keep afloat, there's going to be people upset. Even then, there's people that don't have a bias for Fed but can see how this doesn't differ from other alliances at all, and how it should be allowed to exist. I have problems with Fed. It certainly isn't perfect. But those aspects are completely separate from what you're talking about, which doesn't just hurt us, but everyone who wants to become something similar in the future.

Edit: (there's people) rather than (you're)

 

It clearly bothers you that I pointed out that Fed members opinions are naturally going to be bias. Did you even read my reasoning in my last response? It seems as if you didn't. Here, allow me to assist you.

Except this isn't at all what I'm arguing, I was actually arguing for Fed to stay as it is. This is my original post:

 

It doesn’t bother me that you pointed it out. It bothers me that you repeatedly pointed it out and up until recently appeared upset that the people replying were biased. And yes, I read your entire post.

 

so....nitpicking?
also, if youre not going to contribute to the discussion, why are you still here?
you seem to have alluded to being done with the conversation on multiple occasions yet youre still here
also also, your argument was not just for Fed to stay as it is, your argument was that if Fed is around for too long then it should have restrictions placed on it (obviously with the intent to get rid of it)

 

I pointed it out, and you replied arguing with me for simply pointing it out. Yea, that tells me that you are bothered by it. I didn't subjectively bash on people for being bias, I simply pointed it out.

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My argument stated that I didn't want it to turn into another Hax situation. If you want that, then you clearly aren't for the well being of guilds. No same guild or alliance should be able to have complete dominance of the map for well over a year.

 

the reason for Hax's dominance was their use of feeding sub guilds combined with broken wars. There's no reason for Fed, who is doing nothing wrong and playing fairly by the rules (which again if you disagree do enlighten us on what exactly Fed is doing wrong) to be removed from power simply because they were there too long. Back when Hax was in power, sure people complained and all that, but in the end it was toppled by a group of people who actually did shit rather than people whining about how its not fair. If Fed were to last for as long as Hax did, it would jsut be a testament to their strength, teamwork and experience. If you want territories, well anyone can apply to join Fed. You might not be number 1, but youll get the territories that youve worked for which you otherwise wouldnt have. If your just that greedy, go on and defeat the through sheer strength. No one's stopping you. That's how Hax was brought down. Thats how the alliance that brought Hax down was brought down. Fed shouldnt be brought down any other way. No alliance should really. Its not as though there arent guilds out there capable of rivaling Fed either. When the opportunity arises, im sure many guilds who seem dead now would jump at the chance lay waste to Fed and claim the map for themselves, of course then forming their own alliance, because thats jsut the best and most efficient way to get and hold territories.

 

The original post on this thread was one asking for clarification from the mods if the Federation is doing anything to break the current rules. By the Federation not getting any warnings or so much as a "stop"- I'd assume were in the clear for now. I personally don't find anything wrong with members of our Guild community asking for clarification on the rules. If they seek there should be a change, they should have the right to plead their case to the mod team, and then it is the mods discretion whether or not something needs to be done.

Also, I kind of believe all opinions are naturally bias. If you give an unbiased opinion it would be one swayed not by past experiences. But how is that possible when your past experiences make up how you feel, and think about certain subjects. I dont know. Anyways, I do not believe that because someones statement is opinionated that it should be discredited, and disregarded.

I personally believe that the mods should listen to our players concerns, come with their own conclusion based on the accounts, and let us know what they think the best course of action is. But, I do understand that some people would rather the mods just stay out of things.

We have been told that they are working on a solution/rewrite for the rules, or at least discussing it and I think we should wait on that.

 

I'm going to stop replying now. This is just getting more and more toxic and I'd rather not continue. Debates where you are outnumbered 5-1 are usually not worth debating. Have fun "debating" lmao.

 

OH BOI I'm just reading all of these replies on this thread and all I see is arguments,arguments,arguments,ARGUMENTS ON THE SAME THING.Boi wynncraft sure is entertaining

 

An actually coordinated attack against any alliance, no matter how dominating, will cause them to topple and fall. I'm sure someone here is smart enough to come up with a plan to strike at the most opportune time and overwhelm Federation. They aren't omnipresent, they can't be everywhere at once.

 

although i mean

been there for 4 days guys

 

you know, I think an emote in Fox sums this up pretty well, where is it..

Ah!