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Archer/Hunter Fire/air Hybrid Archer

Discussion in 'Class Builds' started by Snerp, Oct 15, 2017.

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  1. Snerp

    Snerp Grand Terrainer Modeler HERO Builder

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    Basically an inbetween tank/dps archer
    based around fire and air with good regen
    i use this alot. its pretty great for pve, can survive in most bosses, but struggles with orange wybel/qira for obvious reasons

    https://wynndata.tk/s/l3iX62

    Reasons for items:

    Heroism: Adds +WS, health and Raw def/agi sp
    Hetusol: Adds MR, tankiness and regen
    Fire sanc: Adds DPS
    Exhaustion:Adds regen, lifesteal and health, negative stats are countered by heroism and hetusol

    Summa: Adds Raw SP and MR
    Raging Wind: Adds WS and air damage
    Gold Steam Brace (alternative: contrail): adds WS and air damage
    Diamond Solar Necklace (alternative royal blazing amulet): adds extra fire based stats

    Ignis (alternative Hellstrand): yes its a fire bow, but it works well. for what it lacks in damage it makes it back in health bonus and regen, If the build is buffed up with endurance and courage active it can do more than 10k per arrow bomb, which is pretty good for fire archer.

    Alt Weapon: Infused Hive bow or stinger with air powder (only use 2-3 slots on hive)

    Skill points:
    Just add SP till you can wear every item, then put 60 into intel, then just add excess to agi/intel/or def

    Powders:
    Ignis: ❋✹✹
    Heroism: ✹✹
    Hetusol:✹✹
    Fire Sanc: ✹✹
    Exhaustion:✹✹✹
    (all T6)

    Estimated Cost: 2 LI runs, 6+ stax raw LE, 7 CLS runs, Geyser Pit runs
     
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  2. Chun_

    Chun_ Any broken builds founder,nerfed by Salted VIP+

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    T-Flex At the gym HERO

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    Not light theme friendly. Other than that,

    I'd like to use this topic, if possible, to find out if people actually use builds like those.
    My current opinion is that builds like those are bad. Why!? Because why spend time creating a build when it can't finish the hardest content in the game? Also, by taking a totally different route, you can get a cheaper, safer build that can finish both qira and wybel, possibly even LI.

    Usually PvB (player vs boss) and PvE are separated. You don't need much dmg nor health in PvE, so you could sacrifice it for things like WS or faster attacking (speaking in general), so you clear mobs faster. When it comes to PvB, you want to survive, therefore, you exchange some dmg for health.
    Only in this game I see no purpose for this. When you go fire archer, you either have to take water or air with it, otherwise it's gonna be even a worse build. Going air means you lose mana regen, so you should do melee attacks. Melee for archer is bad, it's incredibly hard to "snipe" something from afar. Get close and you dead. Also, when I played warrior, his melee hit several enemies at once, but not archer, archer's arrow hits 1 enemy.
    Moving on, if you go water with fire, then you lose WS, and WS is incredibly important for archer. I solo'd qira and wybel by using incredibly bad gear just because I had enough ws to avoid attacks and enough mana regen to spam spells. On top of everything I said, doing PvE is almost not worth is, as grinding is incredibly boring and un-rewarding, so may as well go with a build that's focused on bosses.

    Statement above is the reason I wish to know if people actually use builds other than air+water combo, I personally don't see a point. If you just want to try something new or don't care about end game bosses, then fair enough, knock yourself out. Tho nothing comes close to air+water build for archer which is a shame.

    Snerp, I really mean no disrespect, the build is as good as it gets for what it is, but since you came up with the build, I assume you are using it, or something similar, I want to know how you feel about it. You and the rest of the archer users.
     
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    Snerp Grand Terrainer Modeler HERO Builder

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    Ive never seen much point in "soloing" bosses tbf, just because a build cant kill the hardest boss ingame on its own dosent = bad.
    I find it more fun honestly to kill a boss with a group rather than solo since they can just feel like a grind. it is pretty expensive but reason for that is cause this is the build i used for my first class and it kinda "evolved" into fire archer, i liked the playstyle so i stuck with it.

    None taken, I am using this exact build but i just dont see anything wrong with it. even if i cant kill a boss my second class is designed around PvB more.
     
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  5. BuffAirSpear

    BuffAirSpear Avos Air Assassin HERO

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    i am not sure what you mean by builds like those but if you mean non rainbow slap (and actually original) then ya all of us avos air ppl dont use :D
     
  6. T-Flex

    T-Flex At the gym HERO

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    How would you describe a bad build then? Also, a good build too.
    Saying builds are good because they do well in PvE doesn't hold much of a value since anything at this point is good in PvE, so that can't be a criteria.
    Also people usually ask for builds that can solo hardest bosses, that's why I am ranking builds based on what they can and cannot do.
    You having another class for bosses is perfectly fine strategy, tho it's yet another of my concern, but that's for another topic. I'll go on a limb and say the class for bosses you are using is warrior. Didn't check your profile yet, so I'll make an EDIT on the bottom of my post. Game just seems one dimensional, at least for archer. I hope that gets changed.
    EDIT: well, you have so many classes at max level, can't confirm which you are using for bosses.
     
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    bloww SHOUTBOX STAN ACCOUNT xx HERO

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    chef hamsey's apron is better than hetusol you already have 600 regen
    also if boreal is reworked and is actually usable maybe you could use it idk
     
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    Less health, no raw regen, less elem defence
    Ye...

    Nah
     
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    bloww SHOUTBOX STAN ACCOUNT xx HERO

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