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Media Every Mythic Has Been Already Rebalanced?!

Discussion in 'Wynncraft' started by Allamak, Oct 10, 2017.

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Do every Mythic deserve a rebalance?

  1. Yes

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  2. No

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  3. I don't care, I don't like Mythics, I just like to watch random threads

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  1. Chigo_

    Chigo_ wtf is a chigo QA CHAMPION

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    This will for sure change the economy but I trust selvut's actions towards nerfing and buffing mythics, the current market should stay around the same if mythics are balanced correctly, yeah there will be a change but we will all get used to it. And after all if things go bad then we can just start a rebellion against the balancing and ask for a better rebalancer.
     
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    Major_Lue Famous Adventurer HERO

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    It's his first run at mythic balancing, mistakes are understandable. Even if there is an issue then a quick update can be pushed out soon after the change. The reason the balancing changes can't happen now is because it would update all unfinished content as well, which there won't be after the full update.
     
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  3. Chigo_

    Chigo_ wtf is a chigo QA CHAMPION

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    god you're a really fast typer...

    also thats not really related to my post.
     
  4. PotatoShaga

    PotatoShaga Well-Known Adventurer VIP

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    wait if u already have a pure pre balance will it be worth a shit ton??? but what if its shit comparted to the (maybe) op 15k meteor dealing pures?
     
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    SUPER M shoop CHAMPION

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    SilverMirror Retired IM HERO

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    we both know wt continuous changing of mythics will do to the market, so mistakes cannot be made
     
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    IceResistance Titans Valor [ANO] Founder CHAMPION

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    Does this mean they will be worth less? Will the value greatly decrease?
     
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    T-Flex At the gym HERO

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    Depends on the buffs/nerfs and how much of a panic people will make.
     
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    BuffAirSpear Avos Air Assassin HERO

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    So basically if ppl panic like a loooooot now then the price will go down by quite a bit even if its just until the update because the supply of mythics would be big and the amt of buyers that are not reluctant would be low. And the more ppl react this way the bigger the chain reaction would get (although that already sounds pretty dramatic) and the rest is like @Whitebeard said up to selvut and the actual changes (although you can obviously already speculate if you wish:p )
     
  10. Major_Lue

    Major_Lue Famous Adventurer HERO

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    You said if things go bad etc etc, so that's a solution and reasoning for when things go bad.

    Continuous ≠ an initial attempt at balancing + any minor changes that were missed
     
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    Honestly, I think players have a right to know about the mythic changes that are about to smack us in the face in the upcoming update. This way, we can suggest changes to the balances before they are actually released, so we won't have to wait another 5 years for a patch to come out nerfing poorly balanced items.

    I'm not criticizing your balancing skills, @Selvut283 , as I think that you balancing mythics is probably one of the best things that could come out of this future update. However, balancing items that basically define the endgame requires extreme caution, and I doubt that anybody, no matter their experience, could balance out all the mythics to be completely smooth in one go.

    If the players were to have access to viewing the upcoming changes, then we could help balance out the items further, and make sure there aren't any uh... newborn Cataclysms and Grimtraps, so to speak. Hell, it doesn't even have to be public, you could pull out a certain amount of dedicated players to check the new changes, to see if they are all fine.

    It's always fun to keep a surprise whenever a new update comes out, but I don't think that you guys should be keeping possibly one of the biggest changes in the game a secret. Especially when it pertains to such a major number of players.
     
  12. Cubie

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    Ah, yes, because all item creators are allseeing and know of all future builds that people will use.
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    That would be so incredibly bad. It'd mean all the OP mythics continue to exist, and will rise and rise in value.
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    I'm curious, say I have a Strati with 90 WS, and it gets nerfed so 80 is the highest, is my walkspeed stat which was ~95% perfect turned into a ~95% perfect stat with 80 as the max, so, 79? Or does the stat just get randomized?
    I really hope you keep the 'percentage of perfection' for your new stat. That'd be quite nice.
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    Despite being his first set of balances, He's made thousands of items already. He's way, way more experienced in item creation than Salted, who made the Mythics, will ever be.
    So, if you look at it that way, it should be fine.
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    Despite being his first set of balances, He's made thousands of items already. He's way, way more experienced in item creation than Salted, who made the Mythics, will ever be.
    So, if you look at it that way, it should be fine.
     
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    You keep the stat %. So if you had a 130% stat (which I believe is max) on your item before the changes, you should have 130% after.
     
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    Alright, time to break this down... tomorrow. Nah kidding, tomorrow yeah, break down, no.
     
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    Lovely, that *should* mean that if you have a good IDd Mythic, it should stay good, relative to the average of that Mythic. What will change, is how good the average of that mythic is.
     
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    Major_Lue Famous Adventurer HERO

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    Scales appropriately. Say you got a 1.30 roll on your stratiformis, which has a base of 70 (rounds to 91), and the base was changed to 80, then it would update to be 80 * 1.30, so 104%WS.

    ^^
     
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    I hope this will bring back the old market
     
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    I think everybody should calm down a bit. We don't know what the mythics will look like, but I doubt anything excessive will happen to them.

    In regards to the economy however, prices will fall. It happens all the time in the real world. Does any of you remember what happened to the stock market when D.Trumpet won the american election? That was because of uncertainty and unpredictability. But look at it now. It has fallen into place again. Maybe not the same as before, but it's stable.
    Same thing will happen to Mythics, if it hasn't happened already. Seriously, who here is right now gonna buy an strati, cata, whatever, well-knowing that it might be worth a lot less after the update? Uncertainty. Makes the demand drop. Which makes the prices fall.
    I believe smart and forseeing people can actually make a lot of money on this. Buy low, sell high. But it is quite a gamble to try it out.
     
  19. the drink

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    QUICKLY GET THE FLAMESHOT HILTS READY
     
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    I'd like if more people would help balancing items. Several people come to mind that would be good at it, considering what I have seen from Selvut's pinned thread. That way, if more people would balance items, Salted and Selvut could dedicate more time to creating new items and new additions to gameplay, which I think is highly needed.
     
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