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Double Xp For Vips

Discussion in 'Wynncraft' started by garrettrocks100, Apr 7, 2016.

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  1. ShinyAfro

    ShinyAfro Well-Known Adventurer

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    Looks like someone is salty about not being able to make bank. Real life needs to be unfair.

    Also looks like the only ones who agree with you are mojang and their lawyers, Wyncraft would be working the same as it always did before had the eula not been released. I can buy EXP bombs but wheres the fun in that? I can just line up quests n wait till dxp and spam quests. Just now there was a guy who had been spamming dxp for a solid 3-6 hours. was nice, reminds me how leveling used to be, just level when you want, now the systems fucked cuz you got to wait for dxp to hand in quests or get stuck grinding. I made 20 levels or so on my warrior in total. was amazing. Also i made my moneys worth in the golden era of wynncraft so i guess the post golden era is kinda bearable as my main got from 1-75 using dxp so i can just grind while waiting for dxp now, not really an inconvenience as it used to be.

    More so disappointed then upset tbh, the old system was great no one complained and it would have stayed as it was were it not for mojang. The only company at fault is mojang and they are who i blame for this, Meanwhile in australia our minecraft servers are too far away for the piggies to chase as they can't swim so no one follows the eula here, which is great. Tbh i missed the most was my iron golem attacking stuff for me, was pretty sick having a combat pet, like a hunter in WoW. No ones ever going to be able to do that anymore tho and i am glad i experienced that before it was removed due to mojang.
     
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  2. scallysche

    scallysche Imperial Wine Drinking Alien Mum VIP+

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    It's the same discussion as the buffs and nerfs. Fix something that was broken (or illegal in that case) and people complain about it and want it to be broken again. Cause thats sooo much fun..
    Play the game like it's fucking intended!
     
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    ShinyAfro Well-Known Adventurer

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    It was not broken, nor was it illegal at the time. Many games have had similar systems and they worked fine. In fact this system is the greater of evils, instead of paying $25 and get dxp for life, you now have to pay every time you finish one of the 104 quests. Literally costing 10x more. The caveat is that everyone shares the dxp, but the player still has a significant advantage purchasing bombs. That's still a thing, the only thing that changed is some people get free dxp for like 20 mins while the dropper of the bombs gets dxp whenever he wants as long as he has cash. Literal micro-transactions. Whats illegal in my opinion is a classic bait and switch while taking somones online account hostage if they decide to reverse the transaction that wynncraft took back. sounds like scamming to me.

    Because doing a single quest, logging off and jumping all the servers to find dxp then turning in quest is how its intended to be played? Such a joke. While i'm at it, whats with this multiple player slots BS? We literally get like 3x more bank space then regular users and apparently that's not an advantage? wot. Better remove all of our VIP+ character slots and limit us to 4 slots, but if someone buys a slot bomb we can use our other 6 slots.

    I mean all these anti pay perks people sound like communists to me. Capitalism works fine, always had. Someone had a service that was desirable, people would pay. period. cash talks. works perfectly. What does not make sense is making both parties unhappy by saying "what about the poor people!?" Who cares about the poor people, when its about South Africa we could end the poverty but no one cares. Whats the strange thing is these anti-capitalists like mojang and their eula. Bloody commies.

    Not one of you has even made a good argument other then "HURR ITS BROKEN". I could say the same about you, you're broken. Or the "Its not fair".
     
  4. yotamdin

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    I don't wanna sound mean, but it sounds really selfish of you. Paying money shouldn't make you stronger. What's the point if people get unfair advantages over other players just because they paid? Can you be happy while others aren't, just because you WANT to be stronger and better without working?

    Just think about what it does to others, compared to your self needs.
     
  5. ShinyAfro

    ShinyAfro Well-Known Adventurer

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    Whatever, money talks like i said. if its such a bad system no one would have played and thus there would be no new streams of users to potentially become donators. Lifes unfair, deal with it. Ofc i am selfish, if i wasn't why would we all be here keeping our things to ourselves when we could be donating to the starving people in south africa and helping them overcome poverty? Humanity is inherently selfish. We all think we are the protagonist of our own story, that everyone a side actor. Lifes unfair, deal with it.

    Furthermore, its a PvE game that the donor perks effected anyhow. Literally nothing to do with pvp so your points invalid. If you wanted to make the game more fair remove levels all together.
     
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    This view and thinking about donation perks has NOTHING to do with each other...


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    This shows that you got no idea about the EULA. They didn't one day just decide to install the EULA, it was always there. The big bang in August was just mainly an update because apparently no one ever cared about the EULA and it brought Mojang/MC in trouble. So please don't talk about things you apparently have no clue...
     
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    Sorry I guess I formatted my answer badly, what I mean is that XP boost is in fact illegal IF non-donors can't achieve that boost. That being said, even if the XP boost was brought back, it should only be brought back to veteran vips (pre-EULA vips for those who don't know) and then every other player should have a way to achieve it (for example do x mob kills or pay x le's or something).

    Also then new vips shouldn't be allowed to instantly get it for money, that is why for example Hypixel can't give the coin boosters to new vips/mvps anymore, they have to earn it just like every default player with nothing affecting it (no lesser prices to get the xp boost and so on for vips).

    I seriously read almost every thread about this back when the eula was changed, if you can't see that I'm right, please go read it or give me 100% hard proof evidence against what I'm saying right now, with a link to something a mojang employee said. Or maybe you just misunderstood what I meant.

    Also
    "You may have seen the Blog post on server monetization https://mojang.com/2014/06/lets-talk-server-monetisation/ and the follow up Q&A https://mojang.com/2014/06/lets-talk-server-monetisation-the-follow-up-qa. This section of these Guidelines clarifies them. By "server," we mean a single connecting address or IP number." https://account.mojang.com/documents/commercial_guidelines 27 October 2015 which clearly states that the source I used earlier is still valid and that rule has not been changed.
     
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  8. Moe_Ronickah

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    Your clarification makes much more sense than your original explanation in this discussion. Thank you. We are on the same side of this issue.

    It's even more complex than your clarification, than mine, than anyone's, because, at the same time that they said that if perks remain, they must be obtainable by newer donors/purchasers, they also added that last sentence, below. If that is not the most twisted, unexplained caveat, ever added to a contract, I don't know what is. In effect, 'you must do it this way, but you can still do want you want'. Compensate users for previous purchases, or not, Mojang doesn't care, doesn't weigh in, doesn't make any suggestions, confuses the heck out of the entire issue.
    "How should servers deal with users who have already spent hard currency on features that affect gameplay?
    Users may keep the perks they’ve paid for on the condition that the same perks are available to other players on the server (directly or purchasable using soft currency). It’s up to the server host to decide how to compensate users for previous transactions."
     
  9. Argagaes

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    Yeah I read that too and was a bit like "Wat"
    -Edit: I think I understand why you CAN'T allow them to have the xp boost, well as I already said, it would count as unfair, BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY! It says on the wynncraft shop WHAT YOU ARE BUYING which does NOT say you'll get 2x xp, if it did, it would break the eula. The people who bought vip before eula actually "made a contract" so to say, for 2x xp + the other features. The thing you are buying isn't the same anymore and therefore you don't have to give that feature to new vips (or old if you just want to be an asshole server owner). And now since it doesn't say that in theory the new vips should in no way be allowed to suddenly have an instant gameplay affecting thing, as they did not actually buy that item, they only bought the current perks which are 100% visual. If they added the "instant 2x xp" to the shop, it'd be against eula again... if u get what I mean. God dam mojang!
     
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  10. ShinyAfro

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    just give us dxp and make regular users able to buy dxp on all chars from a merchant that can only be accessed at level 101 and surrounded by 1hk mobs and a total cost of 20 stacks le.
    Would lol if they actually did something similar, and as long as it is only the vet vips its not breaking the eula.
     
  11. Ingwion Teh Mage

    Ingwion Teh Mage Well-Known Adventurer VIP

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    I Leveled up from 1-84 in 1 week of gameplay, and maybe 13 hours of it in dxp and 4 hours in txp.
    You are acting selfish and harming imo, I didn't donated MONEY to the server, Does it means that I've did nothing for it?
    I think none should have dxp, but instead more quest to 80-100.
    You may have your opinion, but I disagree with it.
    tl;dr:
    None of this BS
    more quest for levels 80-100.
    Thank you for reading.
    Btw,sorry for grammar :( English isn't my first language.
     
  12. ShinyAfro

    ShinyAfro Well-Known Adventurer

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    Why would you even take that seriously, i even said "Would lol if they actually did something similar" - literally meaning it was funny/a joke.
    As for remove dxp entirely, or make dxp on all the time, yeah. i agree. Also the quests 80-100? I agree. My whole point being this system is broken as it is. Idgaf if they don't give us the dxp back we paid for, though i think it is bullshit we don't get the chance for a refund, not that i would, i even purchased VIP+ literally for the blue name tag to go with my vet tag, after they removed dxp perks. I just think its broken that progression is so reliant on quests, which in order to get the max exp, you need dxp, and its irreversible if you turn them in in non-dxp, literally losing potential experience and as such you will need to instead grind.
     
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    In their haste to remain informal, prior to being purchased by MS, and since then, their informality has lead to a great confusion as to how to go about monetizing a server, while remaining within the bounds of the EULA. Although it is legal to charge a monthly or hourly fee for access to a server, I haven't heard of any MC server doing that. It would probably be the death of any server that did.
     
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    Papa Franku seriously needs a swift attitude adjustment to his buttocks, which will probably cause him to have a concussion, as his cranium is irretrievably lost in his anus.
     
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    Looks like someone hasn't learned a valuable life lesson: LIFE ISN'T SUPPOSED TO BE FAIR. Don't believe me? Just ask @Temwolf
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    That's exactly why I watch him XD
    It's also proven that he makes you immune to all bs, and makes your roasts toasty af.
     
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    I ment there should st o ll be dxp bombs.
     
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