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Defense And Agility

Discussion in 'Questions' started by TerrarianSoldier, Sep 1, 2017.

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  1. TerrarianSoldier

    TerrarianSoldier Archer CHAMPION

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    So if I wanted to get minimum damage taken could have 100 points in defense and agility. Would that be effective? Because then I would have a 60% chance to completely take no damage from an attack, but if I do take damage it will be reduced by 60%, right?
     
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    Roxy Migurdia w̶̜̩̥̜͓̞͕̲̝̯̝̥̞͊̊̾͛͋̀͠ CHAMPION

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    Depends on your class.
    If you're warrior you might wanna go for 147 def
     
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    TerrarianSoldier Archer CHAMPION

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    Why 147? And the skill points cap at 100, without equipment.
     
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    Roxy Migurdia w̶̜̩̥̜͓̞͕̲̝̯̝̥̞͊̊̾͛͋̀͠ CHAMPION

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    Warrior can reach 100% reduced neutral dmg taken with warscream
     
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    You only need 114 defense, not 147

    Though this is glitch abuse and not recommended
     
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    Wait how is that a glitch?
     
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    So what 114 defense does, is give you 70% reduction of neutral damage

    Warrior has a base of 120% neutral damage, and war scream gives you 10% neutral damage reduction


    These are supposed to be multiplicative (I believe), but they are additive instead, giving you 70+20+10=100% neutral damage reduction
     
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    War scream gives you 20% damage reduction

    So how much would 100 defense points provide?
     
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    Maybe it's that, I don't remember exactly how it works, 114 is definitely the lowest for neutral reduction

    100 defense is about 62.5% neutral reduction before accounting for everything else sooooooooo
     
  10. TerrarianSoldier

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    So it would only take 100 skill points to be immune to damage.
     
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    It definitely takes 114. I don't know the exact formula that goes into it, and I should probably stop to avoid promoting glitch abuse. :P
     
  12. TerrarianSoldier

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    Yeah, I would think there would be a cap, or the effects would be multiplied with each other instead of stacking.
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    So would Defense and agility be wise? Or one or the other.
     
  13. Chigo_

    Chigo_ wtf is a chigo Staff Member Moderator QA HERO

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    not a glitch its just a broken feature.
     
  14. Hephaestus

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    This post highly implies that it is a bug, and therefore not a broken feature.
     
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    Chigo_ wtf is a chigo Staff Member Moderator QA HERO

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    I said not a glitch I never said not a bug.
     
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    Definition of glitch randomly found online: "The word glitch is usually used when an unintended game state is achievable, due to an unforeseen issue in the game's code. i.e., you are able to clip through the ground (or advance to a part of a quest that normally requires more objectives to be met) due to an error in the code."

    I fail to see how this does not apply here.
     
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    wat


    also @ op, fire air is only good if you have remaining skill points to invest into dex and/or int because your damage will be too low and youll be able to use more glassy items
     
  18. TerrarianSoldier

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    Wait does the warrior's natural defense boost reduce elemental damage too?

    And does the war cry boost reduce elemental damage?
     
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