Champion Rank Has Ruined Proffing (and Bomb Parties In General)

I understand as someone who used to sit in the bomb tracker discord that champion is very strong but it is also one of the main reasons for people to buy champion and so many people have already bought it for said reason I think if it got taken away the outrage of champions (which are usually the servers biggest supporters financially) would be very big

 

Having used champion for a while: it definitely gives an extreme advantage. The bomb bell random delay is <1 min and is different for each champion player, so there are always going to be champion players who get a bomb bell notification within a few seconds. The reserved slots mean that I'm only competing against other champion players to get into a world. I can also spam /switch much faster than a normal player can spam click a world in the lobby. Combined, these 3 things create a scenario that makes it not only nigh-impossible for a non-champion to get into a bomb world, but extremely easy for a champion player to get into a full world. Yeah, it needs to change.

 

I thought they should have just stuck with the subscription and kept the benefits cause it would mean there would be less champions anyway apart from a few who would continually renew it (in which case the server gets more money which is good) and then there wouldn't be as much conflict about the benefits. That said, Champions still do get an advantage which is certainly questionable, but at least there's fewer of them to fill up the slots, use bomb bell, etc.

 

So you would have in you game a thing that harms non-donator players just so you have money?

 

No I’m saying that it’s already done it’s too late to go back and remove it
It should never have been implemented but now that it is and people bought the rank for that reason it would be wrong to remove it

 

I understand you point, but is it truly late? Is this really a valid argument?

Yes, it might be problematic, but I am fairly sure giving current champions some compensation would be possible.

 

The only real course of action in a situation like this would be to offer a choice between compensation and a refund. As much as I wish some form of compensation was enough, it's impossible to replace it with something everyone is happy with, the fact that real money is involved makes it a nightmare. There are without question people who bought the rank just for the bomb bell and there isn't any form of compensation you could give those people which would make them happy. Taking away paid features could cause some real issues for the server.

Of course, it's never going to be removed and a refund option is never going to be available but it's nice to dream of a day where the game is less P2W then it is now :/

 

My apologies, I was just calling out that one player.

 

lol given how wynn has handled compensations in the past, if they end up removing the bomb bell feature champions will just get a tag or some sort of cosmetic. It's been happening over and over again with the lvl 101 star and vet tag

the community pointed out in beta that bomb bell was just bad for the game and they went ahead and did it anyway

 

Good point, Wynn community tends to point out a lot of issues ahead of release and somehow nothing ever gets changed, it's almost like the dev team have literally no foresight :(

 

It's like in the 1.20 beta loads of people were saying "yeah this update is full of bugs, pls don't release"

Dev team: "haha funny 1/20 release date go brrrr"

 

Sometimes the best course of action is to rip off the band-aid.
The longer you wait to remove something that, nearly everyone, agrees is a bad thing, the more amount of people will be upset once it's removed,
The only argument against that is to not remove it, but the issue is the longer it's not removed the more people will be upset about the feature.
Either way, a group of people is being hurt, and one of the solutions is objectively better for the game.

 

Then the question is, wgy did it happen in the first place?

 

Big issue is that real money is involved here. If this was a weapon or an accessory or something that needed a nerf I would agree, but when money is involved the situation needs to be handled with a little more nuance which is something Wynn has never been good at.

I also want to take the chance to clarify my position, I want to see it gone, preferably as soon as possible, I just think that the situation needs to be communicated before anything is done.

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@Salted

Yolo, can't wait for my ban :D

 

why would you be banned?

 

Fairly sure it's not good to @ the guy who owns the forums, generally not something you want to do. Also, it was a joke, I'm not going to get banned, he's probably not going to bother saying anything :(

 

Remember when there was a huge outcry about how overtly pay2win some of the champion features were even well before the hero beta and release? Look at where not listening and doing less than the bare minimum to that completely valid criticism has gotten.

Shame how another server many people enjoy has fallen into the pay to win trap, but even though damage has been done it's not too late to fix this especially since y'all can see how bad the implementation is @admins.

 

Tbh there's no point in being mad about this, people complained A LOT about the champ features in the days of the beta, especially the bomb bell, and salted didn't listen, and if he didn't listen then, he wont listen now, no hopes in removing these kind of things or even changing anything at all since @Salted is absolutely hell-bent to keep everything as is, so yeah, no point in arguing with a stubborn person.

 

If people are unhappy about something, they have a right to discuss it. People get unhappy about things they can't control all the time, it's good to promote discussion about it.

 

i assuming that with dxp weekend it was a lag reduction measure. Why is hasnt been changed back yet is beyond me