SPOILER Cactus Is Hard To Form

Or you can move around and make it more efficient, most of the spots I use are somewhat large so I'll run around them to make sure the mobs in the area stay in low number so they spawn

 

Eh idk, maybe it's just me but I literally can't grind for more than 20 minutes at best in spots where I have to move, the reason I got through herb cave was that I could just spam spells in one spot watching videos. I wish such a spot existed at 90+ :c At least I can't even dream of afking the frozen heights, I'd die near instantly. The troll cave was good although you had to move a bit, since you could actually see the results, in frozen with 2x xp and over 170 xp bonus I get like half a bar during the dxp bomb.

 

Half a bar meaning 50% of a level? Or half of one of the smaller bars (5%)?

 

You have used the same argument, of which simply isnt suitable


Why? Everyone here has fucking shot it down. Why else? Grinding where you have to move around is a half-baked attempt to keep our attention


Simply put: You KNOW that people don't wanna spend 10 hours grinding, but you don't want to do anything. I am aware that updates and such take a looooong time, but the "follow up update" has taken 6 fuckin months for like 4 or so quests, and powders, which i doubt anyone will use if its anything like what we the players think.


Lemme put this into perspective

Gavel added an ENTIRE FUCKING PROVINCE AND 50 QUESTS, and took 2 years
Followup update will add a couple quests and some bits and bobs, and might take 1 year


Either wynnstaff is getting absurdly lazy, or these 4 quests and powders will be a better invention than fucking self-driving cars and wheelchairs that can climb up stairs

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5%. You can NOT get 50% an xp bar, even with dxp, while grinding in frozen heights

 

With dxp I can get a small bar and a half in 20 minutes

 

Imma just call BS on this right now, even if they don't contribute insane amounts of damage, they'll still be useful. Certain weapons show that they WILL contribute heavily to gameplay (empire builder), if a lvl 79 legendary has less damage than some lvl 30 weapons but the highest number of powder slots we've yet seen, they'll obviously contribute at least enough to make up for the difference

 

smaller bars ofc lol

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What lvl r u? I'm 96.

 

I think Selvut has shown and said multiple times in this thread that he agrees that grinding should be less boring than it currently is now.

They want to do things regarding that, but you seem to be the impatient one here. You're making assumptions about an update that has only be hinted at slightly by the content team, and here you are saying "it takes too much time and you don't want to do anything about it".

So ? What are you proving here ? That you can't wait one year (yet again, your assumptions) to get the update for a province that was rushed because people kept complaining about it ?

Nice false dichotomy there. You might want to reconsider your world view, especially if, to you, people who are not getting payed to do anything and taking time to produce a decent game are "lazy".


Keep in mind, AFK grinding is made possible purely, and I insist there, through the abuse of one oversight the content team had, and it's amazing to me how some people try to weasel out of that by saying "It's not bug abuse".

It is bug abuse, the fact that your set works is bug abuse.
Thorns activating Life Steal 100% is a bug. Point blank.

 

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This thread has gone from a cactus thread to what, a grinding thread? Then again, afk grinding is one side of cacti. Grinding has gotten easier over the years, the fact that Gavel was rushed is why everyone complains.

 

^^^^^^^^^

 

A lot of grinding spots are rather large, meaning that moving around gets the attention of more mobs, and is much more efficient and engaging than just standing in a safe spot and spamming spells.

That is entirely incorrect. Practically the entire point of the coming updates is to add more content and alleviate grinding.

That's due to a small content team and the fact that this six months has been months where school has been a factor taking away from time available to work. There's going to be more than you think in this, and powders will be very useful.

You just said yourself earlier that it's taken approximately 6 months for this. And again, the content team at the moment is much smaller than it was during Gavel. We're still working just as hard if not harder than before to crank this all out for you guys, but I have to say when I see things like this, it's really disheartening. But, however dissatisfied I might be with your opinion, it isn't going to make us work any slower.


We hear your complaints, and for those that aren't unfounded, we're working to fix them, harder than you'd seem to want to give us credit for. And before you say "Well just get a bigger content team!" there are extenuating circumstances preventing that, which we are trying to work past, but I can't go into detail on.

 

Are you aware that making stuff like this might not be as easy as you think? Plus, staff are more focused on making sure everything isn't broken before they add new stuff. Have you noticed the amount of effort they're putting into fixing the skill point bug? So it might take a bit longer to add some more quests, would you rather have the quests but lose all your items due to an inventory wiping glitch, or wait a bit longer but be able to actually play the game?

 

Yes i am aware of bug fixes, however the one thing i have learnt is to segment your staff to be the most efficient. Builders shouldnt be forced to work on bugs, the Tech team should. GMs shouldnt be forced to build the map. Stuff like that

Just gonna put this out here, @Selvut283 You could recruit a team of bug fixers and stress testers and such. Its simple logic. If there's a problem, find people who:

1: Want to/already know how to find and patch bugs

2: Are very active, and thus could find the issues and then report to the team who put the coding in. (I wouldnt reccomend having the bugs team put the script into play, because people could put in foul code/malware on purpose if they were given that ability




I'm not going to waste my time arguing with the poor sods who think arguing with me is a good way to spend their time.

TL;DR there's more than one way to fix the bugs AND work on the update which will stop all this ruckus with the grinding pain-in-the-ass

 

You are aware the coding team consists of a single coder right?

 

This part I kind of agree with, I get the skill point glitch a ton, but I've already contacted multiple staff about trying to help figure out what's causing it and NONE OF THEM responded...
It happens so often to me so I thought they could look at my player data and see what the issue is.
And as to fixing it, why can't they just delay the server loading your inventory by 0.5 seconds longer?

However, just "hiring bug fixers" isn't as easy as you think.

 

Staff dont do anything but enforce the rules.

 

We don't make GM's build the map, and builders don't fix bugs. We -do- have designated people for finding bugs, but since we've only got one coder at the moment(but we're actively looking for more all the time), it takes awhile to fix them.

This is unrelated to the main points of grinding and such, but you've seen all the threads of people like Salted constantly swapping classes over and over again trying to replicate the skill point bug, so it -is- being worked on.

 

Salted said he can't get it to happen to him at all, I said it happens to me all the time and I would help, and he didn't respond. How is that gonna get it fixed faster?

 

I'll be honest, I've never experienced the bug myself, either, so it may be a player-subjective thing. I'm not sure, though, but it's at the top of the list of priority fixes. I don't know his methods but I can't really do anything to change them.