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World buff cataclysm

Discussion in 'General Suggestions' started by yy8erig, Nov 27, 2021.

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buff cata or not

  1. buff cata

    16.7%
  2. dont buff cata, buff other assassin daggers

    12.1%
  3. buff divzer to be better than cataclysm

    7.6%
  4. no buffs

    63.6%
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  1. Tealy

    Tealy a businessman of sorts GM CHAMPION

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    buff cata (i wanna sell mine for more)
     
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    Samsam101 Star Walker GM CHAMPION

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    plea se buf fdepressign stikc i needa nop weapon adn depresing srrtik is easily ackesible to bem

    it aslo matckhes my empotions (xd depressed joke is hilasrious and noyt at all offesnive sot some peopel)
     
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    Bixlo Got drip like pablo HERO

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    anyone who has played assassin and read this post, *Visible frustration*
     
  4. RJJguyTheCarrot

    RJJguyTheCarrot Carrut

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    > I understand the confusion, but spell multipliers are based on weapon bases. mage base damage is much lower than assassin, archer base dmg is higher than assassin
    Class Base Damage
    Mage: * 0.6
    Warrior: * 0.8
    Assassin: * 1.0
    Archer: * 1.2
    Shaman: * 1.2
    these muptipliers are applied when creating weapons, to properly balance the class around the tools and spells they have. Comparing one spell multiplier from one class to one from another class is almost usually a bad way to go about comparing things.
    tldr eidolon vs sonic boom moment, madness meteors dealing 100k on shaman moment
     
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    Ingo Class Building Enthusiast HERO

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    tl;dr from comments above and my thoughts:
    • Multihit and smoke bomb also have really high DoT and vanish gives an 80% dmg boost.
    • Weapon base dmg exists.
    • Class base def exists (Assassin has 100%, Archer has 60%).
    • Archer needs to get close for highest dps but when you get close with Divzer you usually die.
    • Warrior is really good, but not because of its dps (don't get me wrong, warrior has pretty high dps but no class can get close to assassin in terms of dps) but because of its tankyness and group buffs.
     
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  6. Androphonia

    Androphonia SON ARE YOU THROWING THE RAID AGAIN VIP

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    I am experiencing organ failure as an assassin player after reading this post
    fr tho
    -base damages
    -spell multipliers (if you had a class that had 100000% spell multi but took 30 seconds to charge up I would say that's more than deserved)
    -vanish
    -assassin has aoe on everything
    -archer needs to get close to actually deal 600%, usually you'll be rolling with 200-300%

    and that's ignoring sustain and base defense and all that good shit
     
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  7. yy8erig

    yy8erig yy8erig

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    200% and 300% are still better than a spin but archer takes a while to shoot all the arrows
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    i might as well make a new thread about buffing general assassin lvl 100 daggers, because they literally can be outclassed/dps met by like lvl 75+s
     
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    IamFye Skilled Adventurer VIP

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    istg I'm loosing more braincells the more time I spend being on this thread
     
  9. ron111701

    ron111701 proffa CHAMPION

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    nighthawk :pray:

    also archer is literally invulnerable against melee mobs
     
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    BlueTheSniper Founder of Blue Builds CHAMPION

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    bjbjgugufyfy cheese cat copium ratio'd
     
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    Bixlo Got drip like pablo HERO

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    please no, the assassin mains dont want more pain plz. assassin overall is already great. the skill aspect is only capped by how skilled the player is. most "lvl 100" daggers can do tons of dps, flameshot, bygones, black, etc. assassin's spell damage and spells are balanced well imo. and before you make a post on something, try actually playing the class first and doing
    r e s e a r c h
     
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    I struggle with understanding what god is trying to communicate, but ill do my best to follow this advice
     
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    Toaster He/Him CHAMPION

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    cataclysm since its introduction has done ridiculous damage and barely been nerfed
    this recent nerf is barely anything, ngl I think it deserved higher nerfs
     
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    Ingo Class Building Enthusiast HERO

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    The hardest content is with ranged mobs (TCC, wars)
     
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    Skidooskei King of the Lollipops CHAMPION

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    I agree with this post, cata should get +4200-7800hp to make up for it’s really bad dmg
     
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    make cata a legendary so that nons can get it! then its buffed because everyone can have!!!!111!
     
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  17. JaydonTheWarrior

    JaydonTheWarrior Nerf tanks, buff warrior. HERO

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    I'm confused on why you decieded to pick the main damage spell of every class, but not for Assassin. The main damage ability of assassin is muiltihit, which does 400% damage.
    My best guess is that picking the highest damage spell of every class but Assassin helped you make it look like an actual citristism.

    Look, even if you ignore muiltihit, as everyone has pointed out, theres 5 issues with this compression.
    1. It ignores base damage
    2. Muiltihit is an instant cast
    3. It applies a blind to enemies
    4. It ignores spell cost
    5. It ignores vanish
     
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  18. yy8erig

    yy8erig yy8erig

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    can this thread please die i learned from my mistakes
     
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    ron111701 proffa CHAMPION

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    archer out ranges the ranged mobs in wars, shield protects from the melee mobs.

    tcc you outrange the boss and can kill it before the peskies even become an issue

    arrow shield is literally the best spell in the game (did i mention it also does the most dmg of any spell ingame? it also extends the range of arrow storm/bomb by like one block - actual god tier spell)
     
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    Ingo Class Building Enthusiast HERO

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    • Are you sure you know how wars work? The tower damages you, no matter where you are. Ranged minions spawn in the middle between the outer border and the tower so they always can hit you.
    • You only can outrange the first two phases.
    • It does high damage but can't be spammed. And that high dmg also is tributed among many arrows, and usually only a few of them hit your main target.
     
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