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Any Class Atlas Inc Build Aid

Discussion in 'Class Builds' started by Madkurre, Jul 10, 2018.

  1. err0r

    err0r wasting my time

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  2. Madkurre

    Madkurre construction worker HERO

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    there isnt one
    though my personal favourites are galleon, lament and probably monster but i havent built it much
    strati is prolly the strongest overall for pvm tho
     
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    by2011 category creator VIP+

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  4. hppeng

    hppeng 0 intel is the correct amount of intel HERO

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  5. Tek

    Tek Profficient and gallant. Wise yet inscrutable

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    Ppl say there is no “best” and use nice words like different playstyle to cover up the fact that they r too poor to buy good mythics. Stop denying it, some mythics ARE better than others and sometimes by A LOT which explains why their costs are all different.
     
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    Tek Profficient and gallant. Wise yet inscrutable

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    Got one with discharge and better dmg?
     
  7. Lego_DW

    Lego_DW yeppers HERO

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    biggest flex of the day
     
  8. Shots

    Shots Yellow Rose Enthusiast HERO

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    @YYGAYMER please flex on us with your 3 medallions real quick
     
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  9. by2011

    by2011 category creator VIP+

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    so can you conjure up a definite best mythic? you can't.
    -some mythics cost more than others not because they're better, but because they're more fun, newer, stand out more, or are easier to use.

    is collapse better than apoc? probably not. is collapse more expensive? yes.
    is divzer better than gma? also probably not. is divzer more expensive? yes.

    -furthermore, although there are mythics that are generally considered much better than others such as fatal > monster, fatal competes with other fantastic wands such as lament, gaia, warp, and new singularity.
     
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  10. YYGAYMER

    YYGAYMER reeeee FW FW HIC Master HERO Featured Wynncraftian

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    y u do dis
    no spider build for you



    kk I'll not deny it
    My budget is 10 le

    I think I said much



    go away economy and riches
     
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  11. Shots

    Shots Yellow Rose Enthusiast HERO

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    Thank you now go back to spider build
    You literally have a gma tf
     
  12. Tek

    Tek Profficient and gallant. Wise yet inscrutable

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    No i cant but there are definitely mythic classes as many threads have established. There r a certain group of mythics that r in the top tier, then good, then ok, then so on. Some use letters too. S tier, A, B, etc. and its in general agreement cata is either in the first or second tier therefore when madkurre said cata is disgusting i had many questions
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    Oh and yes, prices dont ALWAYS reflect how good an item is but it DEFINITELY IS affected. There is NO WAY an item like strati could POSSIBLY cost under 10 just like NO WAY an Item like monster could cost more than 10
     
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    by2011 category creator VIP+

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    and you may also notice that on those "mythic ranking threads"
    -the op him/herself states that the thread is largely subjective
    -there's controversy in the replies on whether or not certain items should be top tier, low tier, etc

    reasons why cata is disgusting (preface: cata is still usable/viable, but i dislike it and find it overrated):
    -(as an item to build) stupid reqs/drawbacks that make building it a pain and makes it stupid annoying to make an interesting build (130 dex req + -4k hp)

    -(survivability) stupid reqs/drawbacks that make builds often lack survivability (good def/agi) compared to other mythics (nirvana, with imo the second biggest drawback (high req + -1k hp), is not even nearly as limiting as you're probably investing into int in most builds

    -(mana) stupid reqs/drawbacks that make builds often lack mana, either in the form or raw mana or int, which also further lowers survivability due to no easy stunlock like nirv

    -(chain lightning) now this is a long one:
    let's compare the powder specials on the different thunder mythics

    cata: higher damage chains
    other mythics: (obviously) lower damage chains

    cata: high reqs/drawbacks, hard to lower attack speed for good chains on a hybrid build
    other mythics: lower reqs/drawbacks, easy to lower attack speed for good chains on a hybrid build

    cata: meh amount of powder slots + base neutral make switching to, say, curse a little bit more awkward
    fatal: no base neutral makes switching to curse easier
    thrundacrack: higher powder slots makes switching to curse easier
    divzer: hello 8/4 ms, why do you want to switch to curse again? if you DO however, it is in the same boat as cata

    reasons why cata is ok:
    generally higher damage (although there's probably less mana, which makes the damage difference smaller, and nirv probably beats cata in overall dps tbh, not to mention that if you DO get more int/mana on cata, you're probably sacrificing tankiness or raw damage anyway so)

    tl'dr:
    stupid reqs/drawbacks make everything sad time (imo)
     
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  14. hppeng

    hppeng 0 intel is the correct amount of intel HERO

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    I think a better way to put it is, they're basically incomparables
    They excel in their own field, if it doesn't suit you (or most players, for that matter) then people think it sucks
    but its still the best in its field

    Also note that mythic ranking threads tend to disagree
     
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  15. Madkurre

    Madkurre construction worker HERO

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    keep in mind those rankings are also usually heavily biased and arent concrete 100% proof some mythics are better than others.
    also check out nicbomb's list. he's a pretty decent builder unlike most of the people ive seen rankings by so hes not placing them in popularity order. though i dont fully agree with his list either the placement of cata in C rank is quite accurate in my opinion as well
    mythic prices are retarded just look at gma vs divzer and realize a lot of other mythic prices make no sense either
    this is because the community is retarded
     
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  16. Tek

    Tek Profficient and gallant. Wise yet inscrutable

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    Ok i just wanna buy an expensive mythic to flex :’( and i thought cata was rly cool and ive wanted to use one for so long... strati prices r going so high so its unwise to buy for now and warp is... moving on disco umm... ok that leaves divz— singularity and cata is definitely better than sing FROM MY POINT OF VIEW IN MY OPINION (dont wanna start another argument with this) so yea... just want a cata build
     
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  17. syrun97

    syrun97 Well-Known Adventurer HERO

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    Class: mage
    preferance: spell spam judas build that have near 10k hp and deal 10k meteor
    restriction: lvl96, quest/discovery item is ok, no master hive(other division is fine), LI, mythic item
    EDIT: boss altar item is ok too(exept orange wybel and corkus one)
    Budget: A SINGLE LE, tons of FF key, tons of CSST item token, max mr meme&toe
     
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  18. Madkurre

    Madkurre construction worker HERO

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    >a single le
    so no tradables lol or u can use trench scourer for more hp and your biggest -defense is thunder but fix that with powders and youll get killstreak at the same time
     
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  19. Tek

    Tek Profficient and gallant. Wise yet inscrutable

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    Just level up to 100 wtf
     
  20. starx280

    starx280 The boy who cried lunar VIP

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    Hi

    I’d like to request a strong chain lightning lunar build :D (no diamond li)

    And yes I have a good water lunar but I got another good one sooo.. xD

    Thanks!
    -Star ⭐️