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Media Allow Glitching To Check Unid'd Items

Discussion in 'Wynncraft' started by aayl, Jun 27, 2017.

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  1. aayl

    aayl Famous Adventurer

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    Let me ask you a question.
    Why do we have rules?
    We have rules to improve the game experience for all players, and ensure a fair style of play.
    What does NOT improve game experience for all players, and ensures an unfair style of play?
    Scamming.
    Unidentified item scamming is part of scamming. And there is a surefire way to check unidentified items, through a glitch. (I don't know how personally, but I do have some intel)
    Why is this not allowed?
    Why is glitching not allowed?
    Because glitching is unfair, and does NOT improve game experience for all players.

    SO HOW DOES CHECKING AN UNID'D ITEM MAKE THE GAME UNFAIR AND NOT IMPROVE GAME EXPERIENCE FOR ALL PLAYERS? IT SEEMS TO ME THAT IT SIMPLY REDUCES RISK OF BEING SCAMMED!

    Now I'm not saying that checking things all the time would be a good thing
    Just legalize checking items before sale please


    Thank you.
     
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  2. T-Flex

    T-Flex At the gym HERO

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    Man, all this threads about unIDed items, and they could have simply made it so you need to ID mythic before selling it.

    Don't get me wrong, I agree with you and support what you say, but this situation is way more complicated than it needs to be.
     
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  3. Orhan27

    Orhan27 Moonman VIP+

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    if you could check an unid'd item you wouldnt identify a bad item.which would cause even lower money sink.
     
  4. LTMS

    LTMS Ninja Water Frog

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    No srsly, we need something to check ATLEAST what item is it before identifying
     
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  5. aayl

    aayl Famous Adventurer

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    Agreed, thanks very much for the input! Editing thread
     
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  6. Retathrah

    Retathrah Retired Nostalgia Hunter, Tired Metalworker CHAMPION

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    We just have to make the large part of the community aware of the glitch, request/demand shop owners to put a notice involving the glitch if they sell any unidied item, or create a huge taboo involving unided items being sold in shops

    The only not-taboo/douchebag reason to sell unided things is if there is only one possible item it could be, and even then that's only a few items and is quite pointless.
     
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  7. Yuno F Gasai

    Yuno F Gasai Forum God, FW

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    It's like the armor dye glitch
     
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  8. sdkgjnio

    sdkgjnio hod-SOH-nee-uhs

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    Agreed. This is sort of making a glitch into an actual feature. If you want it to be possible to see what something is before identifying it, add it as a feature such as the name of the item being, for example,

    Pure (unidentified)
    Level 64-68

    Mythic item


    If it's not a feature like that then it can only really be considered an exploit, and must be prevented.

    Essentially,
     
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    Retathrah Retired Nostalgia Hunter, Tired Metalworker CHAMPION

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    That's what it was like pre-gavel, so it's not new. I'd say as to why they removed it, but i don't remember if there ever was a reason as to why.
     
  10. Aya

    Aya Very Serious Gensokyo Journalist

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    i did like to know where do all these similar threads come from sometimes
    first the mythic duping, then the dungeon banocide, and now this
     
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    Tobulance Famous Adventurer Media HERO

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    I just want to throw my mythic on the ground and see that item skin, ya feel me?
     
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  12. Lexwomy

    Lexwomy Lexwomy HERO

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    Unidentified items are supposed to be unidentified random items with a level range to help you guess. Glitching defeats the point of that
    Just make stricter rules on unidentified item selling.
    Or perhaps like make an NPC that gives you a identifying check. It'll say the item name, but with a money cost.

    Like, you have an unidentified legendary 96-100 spear. Pay the (rather large) cost to the item identifier #2, and he'll tell you the item name. "This item is most likely a harwrol." something like that. If you want to absolutely know your item name, you'll have to pay a huge cost scaling with item tier to id #2. If you want it to be a random one, don't.
    Money sink plus problem solve.
     
  13. motoki1

    motoki1 The Damage Calculation Scientist HERO

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    That's probably not what is going to happen, unless Content Team decides to make the system back so you could know the item name before identifying, just as pre-Gavel.
    Hopefully I'm getting the point of discussion here. The new rule that you're talking about, is something that you can take as an extension of "No Scamming" rule. A new rule had to be added just because part of community are aware of how to know what exactly an unID'd item is by using a method that has not been intended into the gameplay; what we call glitch abuse. This had to happen, with the current system, after all.
    Now, rule is a rule. This rule applies when someone decides to sell an unID'd item, in which level it includes other same-tier items. When an item is found out to be a different one from what is advertised after sold, there is no way to distinguish the innocents and the scammers.
    Since selling unID'd item is an unique business, and there is only a few cases that there being two or more items in the same-tier same-level, most cases could still pass this rule legally by using a well-known trick (Only this and this, let me know if I missed). If you could still not figure out what the item is, just go to the Identifier. That's just how the game is designed.

    To sum up, please do not try to abuse a glitch, share them, or encourage anyone to do so. It's not something that is ever going to be legalized.
    If you want the gameplay system itself to be changed, it should go to the General Suggestion/Feedback section. I'm closing this thread now.
     
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