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Guide About spellcosts, intelligence, and wynn 2.0

Discussion in 'Wynncraft' started by hppeng, Jul 28, 2022.

  1. Druser

    Druser ele defs don't matter HERO Featured Wynncraftian

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    While I agree that there are a lot of factors going on (probably the need to do a ton of stuff very quickly among them), I don't think this was an unforeseeable problem at all, and the analysis in question that hppeng did is fundamentally the same. Int is such an overriding factor that everything else is minor in comparison, the effects the original Int change would have should have been clear.
     
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  2. Señor TopHat

    Señor TopHat The Industrialist VIP+

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    This is very well done, I appreciate the amount of specific detail included. Thank you, Hppeng & Co.
     
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  3. NamesAreHard

    NamesAreHard Mage Enthusiast (She/He/They) CHAMPION

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    Damn I actually saw it and was like "Oh I guess I had the version wrong and it isn't actually 1.20.4 right now", lack of confidence doomed me again.
     
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  4. Epicness937

    Epicness937 Thesead water god. HERO

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    Very interesting. Curious to see how this will be addressed.
     
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  5. touhoku

    touhoku heavy spell pioneer VIP+ Item Team

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    I mean, we could foresee the effects of the original int change, and we could definitely hear the community response about spellspam loud and clear. The fact that all the new items and a good bit of the changes were designed/made before the partial revert is relevant, as is the idea that we had to do a lot very fast as you mentioned. Community made it very clear they were entirely uninterested in playing a beta without spellspam, so not doing anything at all would've been disastrous for beta test bugfixing. None of this is to say that any of the decisions we (I) made were correct—some were close and some were blatantly not close—but I think that at every step of the way each one was at least defensible in context, especially given the pressure and mixed messages/lack of support from dev side we encountered from time to time.
     
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  6. Saya

    Saya you win at uwynn Discord Moderator Community Helper VIP+

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    a bit of dread as well though, there's more ways for this to go wrong than right :((
     
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  7. Epicness937

    Epicness937 Thesead water god. HERO

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    Agreed but I've played wynn long enough to be completely desensitized to that sorta thing lol
     
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  8. Dr Zed

    Dr Zed Famous Adventurer HERO

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    This thread made me realize how obscenely complicated the item and spell system has become. Of all my years of playing Wynncraft I never even knew about half the stuff in this thread…
     
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  9. Saya

    Saya you win at uwynn Discord Moderator Community Helper VIP+

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    tbh this type of analysis can be applied to wynn 2016 and later so

    Scarier that the item and spell system was always this complicated...
     
  10. Dr Zed

    Dr Zed Famous Adventurer HERO

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    It’s true it got complicated after Gavel, but I wouldn’t say it was from then on as complicated as today since spell cost IDs didn’t exist when Gavel was released and the base 4 spells hardly changed even with 1.19.
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    Also powders weren’t introduced for awhile after Gavel’s release
     
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    GP347 Well-Known Adventurer HERO

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    Not only was this informative, it was also very entertaining. Also, did not know Anima was that strong. I saw the changes when I was building Guardian but didn’t think too much of it. Don’t worry about that plug. Website’s been incredibly useful and I don’t think anyone would be able to build without it. I’m also very surprised about how broken some items are yet are looked over, never would have thought.
     
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  12. Saya

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  13. Saya

    Saya you win at uwynn Discord Moderator Community Helper VIP+

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    Endistic Acolyte Enjoyer HERO

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    is this a bump? probably
     
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    Enclaire Skilled Adventurer VIP+

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    it'll be funny if the update doesn't involve around spell spamming since its literally called spellbound :trol:
     
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    RenZenthio Trap HERO

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    Wynncraft Spellbound, the best melee update Wynn has ever seen (from what I’ve seen this might even be unironic)
     
  17. Dr Zed

    Dr Zed Famous Adventurer HERO

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    It really is; mana and life steal being consistent and the intelligence nerf alone make melee more viable than it has ever been since the game introduced skills.
     
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  18. hppeng

    hppeng 0 intel is the correct amount of intel HERO

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    bump

    upcoming wynnbuilder project relating to this? maybe...
     
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  19. Saya

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  20. Enclaire

    Enclaire Skilled Adventurer VIP+

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