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A Way To Help Upcomming Builders And People Asking For Housing

Discussion in 'General Suggestions' started by Tepgam, Sep 8, 2015.

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  2. Could use some more work (Please say what needs to be worked on)

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  1. Tepgam

    Tepgam Tepgam the explorer VIP+

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    Hello everyone, TrollPlaysGames here

    I have seen a lot of people asking for housing but as we all know, it wont be implemented, atleast for now.
    There are also some people that want to apply for builder but have no acces to things like world edit and voxel sniper.

    I have been thinking about all this for a while and I think I may have found a way to help those people.

    The very basic answer is simple, a whitelisted plotworld server

    Now you are probably starting to get questions about this.

    First off, wont this be a waste of money?
    The answer to that is this - there only needs to be 1 plotworld server, so for the start a wc world that rarely gets used could be borrowed for the plotworld server. I'm talking about the ones that rarely appear on the list so noone would probably even notice that it's gone. If the plotworld server helps and people like it, they could get an actual server for it and return the wc world.

    Alright, but what is so different in this than any other plotworld server?
    Most plotworld servers are for hand-builds. In this one, they could allow limited WE and VS, perhaps using regions to limit the area where the player can use it? It wouldnt have all of the commands, it will have some of the basic ones so the server doesnt get crashed by someone doing a command that can cause a lot of lag.

    Hmm, but what is the need for this again?
    First off, it would somewhat stop the housing suggestions, because if people want to get a house in wynncraft, they could make it on their own plot. Second, this would help people who want to apply for the build team, or just build with plugins but have no acces to WE or VS otherways. Third, this could also help the build team find new members by looking around the builds.

    But what if someone comes on and builds something inappropriate
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    First off, you will have to make an application to enter the server so most people would understand that they shouldn't build inappropriate things. Second, there could be a command, perhaps, to report a plot for having an inappropriate build. If someone builds something inappropriate, they would get punished.


    Alright, I think I am done with the question part :)

    Next to the commands

    If the plotme plugin would be used, then the commands should stay the same
    If theres a custom plugin could be something like these -
    /wcp new - Gives you the next clear plot available
    /wcp claim - Claims the plot you are on if its free
    /wcp [Player Name] - Sends you to the plot of the player specified
    /wcp add/remove [Player Name] - Adds or removes the specified player from building on the plot
    /wcp report [Reason] - Sends a report for an inappropriate build to a list of reports that mods or admins can view

    Most of the commands would still be similar to plotme


    How would I get in the plot server?

    Probably from a different ip but it would still be somewhat connected to the main server, this is so new players dont get confused.

    To login you would need to write an application similar to the Builder or GM ones but it would have less requirements. For example, your builds would have to be decent but they can be lower level than the build team application builds.
    You would also have to state a good reason why you would want to join the plot server.


    This is it for now, support is always welcomed as well as critism ;)
    Remember, this is just an idea I had, I am mainly writing this suggestion, because it would be useful for a lot of people!
     
    Last edited: Sep 8, 2015
  2. Frostburn

    Frostburn Famous Adventurer

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    I think plots should be removed after a couple of months(Unless a good reason is stated), and only 200 plots are available at once.
     
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    This is starting to sound a lot like Hypixel's build application system, but +1 Support​
     
  4. Drew1011

    Drew1011 Former Viceroy of the Foxes / Reviver of Kingdoms HERO

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    Honestly, I just don't think player housing would be a good idea. What's the point?
     
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    Questions:
    Where/How would people apply? Who would have to accept the applications?
    How will the server not crash when people VS and WE?
    How in the heck would this fit with the roleplay style of Wynn?
    Are people who joined Wynn actually interested in this? I mean, most people are here for the RPG stuff.
    How would this not lag in general?

    My opinion:
    Wynncraft values it's roleplay factor high, and this would ruin it. Wynn is meant to be as unique as possible, (inside of Minecraft) you won't find a game like Wynn.
    A plotworld.. is so Standard. The two totally don't fit together.

    Having WE and VS added creates MASSIVE lag, and those are plugins which would need to be recoded, which is way tougher than creating something on your own.

    The application system wouldn't work. You'd need someone checking it constantly, since people hate waiting.
    And for inappropriate builds.. People will always do them, there's nothing you can do to prevent it. And the report thing? Who would check those? Surely not the mods, they got enough stuff to worry about already.

    There are many flaws in this. If people really want Player Housing, the only way is something along the lines of:

    An NPC, which takes certain blocks which you have collected from killing certain mobs, or looting certain chests (Wood, Cobble, etc) gives you items which can be put into 'something' which would trigger some CMBs to Create a small, Wynn-like house. The more items from the NPC you add, the bigger the house becomes (They're like upgrades.) On the inside of the house, you will be able to place things you've gathered, like paintings. ( These would be very rare drops, for example )

    This way you keep it focused around the RPG-element, have a typical Wynn thing involved, an NPC, and still have player housing.

    I will make a Suggestion once I've figured out how to make this not lag, and how bad it would lag.
     
  6. Tepgam

    Tepgam Tepgam the explorer VIP+

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    Hmm.. you make a lot of good points.
    Now that I look at the suggestion myself, I can see that there are flaws that would be hard to fix..


    I'm going to answer a few of the questions but I don't really think this suggestion would work out since there are a lot more better ways

    Where/How would people apply? Who would have to accept the applications?
    My original idea was that it would work like the builder/gm applications and there could be a small team that accepts these applications, but now that I look at it, there could be issues with this.
    How will the server not crash when people VS and WE?
    I have heard that there are limitations for WE but im not fully sure about this. For VS im not really sure, I always thought that there were limitations you could set but I don't think there are, and as you said this probably would require them to make a whole new plugin and that could turn out too time consuming and take away time they could be spending on other things like new features to the actual game.
    How in the heck would this fit with the roleplay style of Wynn?
    It could be a seperate server but yeah, it doesnt fit at all
    Are people who joined Wynn actually interested in this? I mean, most people are here for the RPG stuff.
    That is also a good point. I may have somewhat overlooked this point while writing the thread
    How would this not lag in general?
    Now that I think of it.. it would lag horribly if there were even about 20 people on all doing big WE and VS projects..

    The main post just came in my mind and I wanted to post it before I forgot it but now that I look at it, it seems nowhere near as good as it seemed the moment I was writing it.
    The previous few days I was even thinking of perhaps closing it since it wouldnt really work out but I can't decide if I should leave it open and let it close by itself or delete it.
     
  7. Cubie

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    You seem quite sad about it D:
    I didn't mean it to burst your bubble..
    Sorry for that.

    Keep it open.
    "Failed suggestions are inspiration for new suggestions, which might not fail"
    This worked for you as well, I bet, you probably looked at all the "failed suggestions" of player housing, got inspiration, got an idea, and made this thread.
    This thread has inspired me, and probably some more people. It gave me some ideas of what I could do for my own suggestion, which will be coming soon.

    Even though my suggestion will probably also fail, it might inspire someone. It could make them come up with an amazing quest idea, a class idea, or have them come up with an idea to make Player housing work.

    Who knows.
     
  8. Tepgam

    Tepgam Tepgam the explorer VIP+

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    Don't worry, I wasn't sad about it ;)

    And alright, I will keep it open, and yes this was a bit inspired by all those 1-3 line suggestions about housing :D
     
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  9. Zelefant

    Zelefant wizard fortress will return one day HERO

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    I had an idea similar to this, in the cities like detlas there's those unused houses that have a certain cost depending on the level of the town, but there's a limited supply of houses of course, so it would cost more to make it.
     
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