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General A Thought To The New Store Update

Discussion in 'Feedback' started by RamonaFlowers, Nov 1, 2016.

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  1. RamonaFlowers

    RamonaFlowers Subspace Delivery Girl CHAMPION

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    In case you did not know, Wynncraft recently updated their store. The new features of the store can be found here:

    https://forums.wynncraft.com/threads/the-new-store-is-up.162291/
    https://forums.wynncraft.com/threads/hallowynn-store-patch-changelog.161300/

    It's pretty dank, and the new stuff definitely sounds awesome. But I'll get straight to my point:

    There are some things which I feel should be tweaked/changed.

    No, I know you're going to be like "BUGGER OFF YOU SHITSTAIN STOP HATING ON WYNNCRAFT!!1!!2!!" but bear with me for a while.



    Ranks

    With the new store update comes a new rank: [HERO] .

    It costs almost a hundred bucks and I should say it's good because
    1. It's always good to have a rank that costs quite a sum
    2. More money for the server if many people were to purchase it

    And of course it grants the most stuff to the player. 6 Mob Totems, Daily T2 Crate, Beta Access and more. It's a really sweet deal if I should say.



    Crates

    A most hyped feature of the new update, now we have what almost every other server have: cosmetic loot boxes! You can get Commons, Rares, Epics and Godly items from your crates. Such items include Player Effects, 1.9+ Item Reskins, Pets and Disguises! The crates also comes in 3 tiers: T1, T2, T3.

    VIP+ gets 1 T1 Crate daily while HERO gets 1 T2 Crate daily. There has been no confirmed Crate reward for VIPs and Non-Ranked players. And T3 is only available if you buy them from the store.



    Bombs

    2 new bombs: Shout bombs and Soul Point bombs.

    It's pretty good, because it benefits everyone on the server. New item bombs also give 2 random items to players online which balances out unfairness when item bombs only benefit players that are nearby.



    What I feel should be changed

    • I feel Crates need some tweaks.
    • Non-Ranked members should get a T1 Crate every 2 months
    • VIP should get a T1 Crate every 2 weeks
    • VIP+ should get a T2 Crate every month (they will still get the daily T1)
    • HERO should get a T3 Crate every month (they will still get the daily T2)

    Yes I know some of you are going to be like "Yadayadayada you paid less money so you should get lesser stuff" but hear me out.

    The update should at least give benefits to everyone.

    I know anyone can buy crates from the store but not everyone has the privilege to spend money on the store.

    I know Mob Totems and the new bombs are giving benefits to all but again Non-Ranked players have to find a ranked player that has Totems in order to get the benefit. Same applies for the new bombs. I think the new update is benefiting the more well-off players more than the players that supported the server less in the long run.


    Oh and another thing:

    • Beta Access

    HERO will always be whitelisted on the Beta servers when a new update is being pushed and the staff needs people to test stuff. Of course others will also get a whitelist when Beta arrives but HERO will always be whitelisted.

    No

    Just no

    We are a community. We should all have equal chances of getting the privilege of being whitelisted for Beta. Where's the fun of being able to have a peek at the new update when most of the chances are only exclusive to people that are able to pay the most? I reiterate my stand: as a community we should receive equal chances of getting a whitelist for Beta access, and not just HERO that can have permanent access.







    You're welcome to say your stand in the comments if you feel you don't agree with some of my points. If any admin would like to state their ideas behind some of the new features so as to reduce any conflict/confusion it would be appreciated.

    Plus, this thread is not a hate thread. Don't get the wrong idea.

    Thanks for reading!
     
    Last edited: Nov 1, 2016
  2. Endertricity

    Endertricity Assorted Mini Quiche VIP

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    I think the way you did this is kinda weird. I'm going to counter-suggest.
    Normal; T1 every 2 months
    VIP; T1 every 2 weeks
    VIP+; T2 every month +current
    Hero; T3 every month +current

    You're really underestimating the span of a full month.
    That's a pretty long time.

    I disagree with this entirely. Beta access is the least you could do for someone who personally paid you 100 freakin' bucks. They get beta access as a contributer; then, we all get access as a lucky participant. If someone pays you that sum of money, you know they care about your product. They will take the time to, well, beta test. Anyone can win a random twitter pick; this includes someone who may play for 15 minutes then quit. Is that really helping anyone? Rank privileges comes before lottery.
     
  3. Glitchedslayer

    Glitchedslayer Godly Horse Breeder and Memer HERO

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    So what should wynn do to stay up? Because of EULA, there isn't much things wynn can do to make perks for donors to keep the server running. Have a third rank is already a bit of a stretch and taking beta privileges out wouldn't make it much more useless.

    Beta isn't really a HUGE deal anyways. The last one last a afew days and you had to start from scratch with a select few doing the important things, some people who got into the beta couldn't do ANYTHING new. If everyone were to have the same exact chance does that means mods and the top 10 shouldn't of gotten instant access?

    The same thing goes for the crates. They are just cosmetics and don't affect the game at all so why limit the perks for donors?
     
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  4. Pokextreme

    Pokextreme Avos Air Archer HERO

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    Ok. About the beta thing. Other people will still be white listed, but it's annoying that sometimes everybody you know gets white listed and you don't. I think that the top 10 players got automatically white listed anyways...
     
  5. RamonaFlowers

    RamonaFlowers Subspace Delivery Girl CHAMPION

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    Changed the times for crates.

    About Beta access, it's unbalanced. HERO already gets the most stuff, and Beta access shouldn't be in it.

    Beta is when everyone registers and hopes to get picked to test the new update. HERO ranked players having permanent whitelist defeats the whole purpose of Beta testing when most of the slots are already taken up by people that can afford to pay more money than you. Hate me on this one, but paying 100 dollars isn't everything. We should have equal chances of getting into Beta, no matter how much we paid. How are you going to think if it's going to be basically that same people that gets into Beta everytime?

    Limiting perks to mainly donors are basically pressurizing people to upgrade their ranks/pay for a rank. Isn't that what almost every other server does? I know it's purely optional but most of the server's money comes from ranks and limiting almost EVERY perk to donors isn't going to make non-donors feel better. Beta access shouldn't be thing that's exclusive to people that paid the most, because it ruins the chances for others and it's unfair. HERO rank is already useful without Beta access, as it gives the most of every perk in the game.

    I know the top 10 gets whitelisted for beta because they deserved it. They worked hard to get to the top 10 in the leaderboard and giving them a slightly better privilege of getting beta access seems natural. Mods and staff members get whitelisted for obvious reasons. The rest of the playerbase should have an equal chance of competing for beta access, no matter what rank they have.

    Oh, and trust me, Beta is a pretty huge thing. I don't know what you've seen a few days before the Gameplay Update release but people were pretty hectic about getting into Beta and test shit. It's a privilege to get into Beta and see the new stuff earlier than the rest who have to wait until the update releases.

    And for crates, just because they are plainly cosmetic items doesn't mean it's pretty much donor exclusive. Since it doesn't affect the game everyone should have a try at opening the crates and it's not just for people that have the cash to buy ranks or buy crates from the store, for example making non-donors receive a crate every 2 months or so.
     
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  6. Pokextreme

    Pokextreme Avos Air Archer HERO

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    what you don't realize is that you need to donate to get in the top ten
     
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  7. Glitchedslayer

    Glitchedslayer Godly Horse Breeder and Memer HERO

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    As a person who tried hard to get in and did, it really wasn't worth the hype.

    The things most people could get to were dungeons a single buggy boss room.

    SInce it doesn't affect the game, it should be mainly put towards trying to keep the game upright. I don't think you could tell, but the whole reason why they had to make crates and new cosmetic items were strictly for DONORS since EULA and the gameplay update made people want to buy less things. They wouldn't of made it if they didn't need the money.
     
  8. Endertricity

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    What do you think the purpose of Beta testing is? Is it not merely trying out the new features on the player base? If so, people who bought Hero would probably be the best ones to pick because you know that they actually care about your server (why else did they pay $100) and will actually do their best to support and help it. These people got access because they paid for it. That's the way the world works.
     
  9. Jamieverse

    Jamieverse Legendary Adventurer VIP

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    I feel like this is over complicated.
    Maybe just each month a t1 crate for non donars,
    And then the same for VIP+ and hero
    And just like IDK 1 t1 crate for the same amount of time for other ranks.

    Preach!! 100% agree
     
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    RamonaFlowers Subspace Delivery Girl CHAMPION

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    What about the people that would want to support the server but sadly they don't have the money to buy anything from the store?

    And not all those that bought HERO actually had a thought of "caring" about the server when they purchased the rank. You don't simply judge a person based on how much money he/she spent. Sure, it helps the server but it does not necessarily mean the person has good intentions. Just because you are able to fork out more cash does not mean it guarantees you smooth passage throughout your whole gaming experience here. Sadly, that is the way the current world works-which is what I detest.
     
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  11. XavierEXE

    XavierEXE ♪ Wynncraft's Composer and Ability Tree Lead ♫ ♪ Music Item Team CHAMPION

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    Literally all I wanted was a couple more class slots and we didn't even get that ;-;
     
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    Inactive User Famous Adventurer VIP+

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    Honestly, Hero right now is a very poor rank. For being $50 more than the next lowest rank, it should have AT LEAST double the benefits. To take away more wouldn't be right. If anything, Hero should have more benefits.

    This is by unbiased, honest opinion. As you can see, I have VIP+.
     
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  13. RamonaFlowers

    RamonaFlowers Subspace Delivery Girl CHAMPION

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    They are going to add more things for ranked players in the future, so I guess they will take what most of us think into account?
     
  14. Endertricity

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    I think about 50 people have hero, max
    Actually, it is for testing. Why would someone play a buggy version of the game that reset all of your progress for fun when you could play the actual game?

    Is English your first language because I have no idea what any of this means
     
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    1) Beta regularly had 70+ people online. Plus, 50 is a long way off from "half the server"
    2) Because people gave feedback on the gameplay? What does this have to do with Hero
    3) Your sentences were messed up and confusing, and brought up many irrelevant ideas in a gramatically incorrect fashion.
     
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    It's highly unlikely for everyone to be on at once. Over 20000 people have played Wynn I believe, and you only see 1000 online at a time.

    You can test gameplay. That means to see if the new content is interesting or smooth.

    Someone would only buy hero if he's really really invested in the server and wants to play as much as they want. Why would they spend $100 for it otherwise? They may do it for the rewards, but you can bet they will care about the server enough to make perfectly fine testers.

    I don't think many people are accidentally buying hero. Plus, why get it for a friend if they're not going to use it for its intended purpose either?

    That's why Beta is not only going to be heros. There will be just as many, if not more, random players too. But the server has to appreciate and reward the fact that these guys donated money for an otherwise free service.
     
  17. kojirobin

    kojirobin ♧ the local (broke) emerald dealer VIP

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    im leaving other people to reply to you.
     
  18. Dohdo

    Dohdo I'm back. Cancer in it's purest form.

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    But do you know whaat would make it less than a stretch? The 4 class reskins that wynncaft is missing. You can find them in my sig :D
    not a sellout
     
  19. Lexwomy

    Lexwomy Lexwomy HERO

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    I LIKE THE WAY YOU THINK.
    ME SUPPORT!
     
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    LCT8 The Kickoff Elite HERO

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    k so imo Hero is not really worth to buy because it has almost the same features as VIP+ so people would buy VIP+ because it is way more worth it so then i think wynncraft should really add new classes to hero rank or just add new commands to what hero can do or your idea for the crate system for hero is acceptable
     
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