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A Possible Explanation On Why There's So Many New Hsb Players, And A Psa

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  1. Mistrise Mystic

    Mistrise Mystic Surfing winds and chasing windfalls HERO

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    God this post is meta
    A forum post about how a different forum post has led to more forum posts on this forum
     
  2. Samsam101

    Samsam101 Star Walker GM CHAMPION

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    No it was because I played HSB yesterday and i went around without armor whilst wearing the Aledar skin

    It was free advertising for us
     
  3. Fingolfin

    Fingolfin High king of the Noldor

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    you succeeded in your quest lol, i could play for a lil cause parents dont like me playing during the week so ima play on friday
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    yeah i said some bad things and now that ive tried it im honestly prefer wynn over sb
     
  4. Mac N Cheese Man

    Mac N Cheese Man First Official Member Of The Mac N Cheese Club

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    A bunch of people were saying they were confused, or easily bored of Wynn, which is also what my HSB friend said when trying Wynn. My theory is that HSB is a more “gimme” type of game, without people really realizing it. By that I mean you’re explicitly told things rather than having to read or make many inferences. I haven’t really gotten passed the tutorial of HSB myself, as I was bored by the story, or lack there of, and jokes and gameplay just seemed kind of stupid to me. I also despise grinding and knew what I would’ve gotten into, I also just didn’t fine the whole build part directly integrated into an MMORPG very interesting to begin with, but I can see why some would like it.

    I think both games attract a different type of audience. I believe that HSB players are typically more prone to liking grinding and somewhat artificial difficulty more, while Wynn players would prefer a more thought out world and story, with varying gameplay. A good comparison I could use is a slow burning heavily story based movie, which is more of a long thought out character study, which is more of an entertainment for the brain, such as The Lighthouse. This is versus an action movie where the outcomes are near immediate, and interesting (visual) stuff is nearly always happening, and is less of a character study and more of an entertainment for the eyes, such as John Wick. Both movies are good, both movies have action, but one (the lighthouse) has a slower buildup that you won’t get satisfaction from immediately. While the other (John Wick) will give you satisfaction near immediately, but the long term rewards aren’t exactly as great as the other option. I think it’s like that for Wynn vs HSB, as where Wynn is a more slow long burn, with actions and story lines that take course and have effect much further into the game, where you will want to remember things from the beginning of the game all the way to the end. Take Aledar for an example, or the WynnExcavation Sites. Both of these things you’ll encounter early on, but can’t fully grasp until much later. Wynn is more thought provoking. While in HSB there’s a very very clear cut goal with an easy, however time consuming, path to get there that gives instant rewards that you won’t have to keep in the back of your mind for another twenty or fifty levels. It’s really just farm x, get x, buy y, kill z, repeat, not much thought has to go into it. It’s less thought provoking, but is sometimes good for not having as much of a mental challenge. HSB players are probably not looking for something that will challenge their brain, they most likely want something that’s quick and near thoughtless, while Wynn players are more likely to challenge their brain. Both can be good if you want a change, I guess. I, personally, like the slow burn more, as it is how you cook a steak well after all. But I can understand those who would enjoy a charred on the outside while still not cooked on the inside steak. I’ve always just enjoyed a slow burn of a storyline rather than instant reward grinding. I can see why people would dislike Wynn if they’re not looking to sit down for a large scale story and would prefer to stick to their semi-instant rewards.

    What it comes down to is that Wynn most likely requires a higher attention span, and more of the brain to be used, which some people do not like doing. While HSB probably does not require as great of an attention span, and less of the brain to be used, which some people (like myself) do not like. HSB is better if you’ve had a long day, while Wynn is better if you’re bored. Both have their upsides and downsides.

    Of course there will always be outliers in these probabilities, and I’m probably wrong on some stuff. Also just how thought provoking is Wynn is up for debate, but it is more thought provoking than HSB. It can also be up for debate in how instant HSB rewards are, but seeing as the path is more clear cut and outlined it is more instant than Wynn.

    Also, for HSB, I know things can take a LONG time, but that’s not really the instant I’m talking about in terms of how many hours it takes to preform one action. I can’t exactly describe what I mean, but it makes sense to me. If I had to really describe it I’d say that Wynn is a long form mental thing, while HSB can be long but can easily be done monotonously without realizing it much, or paying attention to something else.

    Please let me know if I’m wrong, because I very very well could be. This isn’t meant to be offensive in any way, just to shine some hypothetical plausible light on a situation while injecting some of my opinion on it.

    Ignoring all that, it’s great that HSB players want to try and step outside their box and try Wynn. That’s really great, and it seems to deviate from the statistical norm, and we should totally try to help them out as so that they don’t quit right after the tutorial after not opening up the quest book.

    TLDR: Wynn is more long form, while HSB is more “instant” (take that as you will). And HSB players are more likely to not like Wynn because of the differences. While Wynn players could like both if they are wanting to take a break from more of a mental challenge.

    Again, I know parts of this seems kind of opinionated, but I do legitimately see the appeals to both, I just have a very strong opinion about HSB, which I’m sure you can tell what it is.
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    You are an example of an outlier that I was talking about. It’s good you have changed, I am very glad for you. Still sad a lot of people in your demographic don’t have the patience for a long form story line.
     
  5. Thonck

    Thonck I Need the Yopyop Sauce VIP

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    I've never played HSB but from what I've gathered from other people it seems to have way less re-playability than Wynn. Once people get bored of HSB, they really get bored of it, then once they move over to Wynn, they've got literal hundreds of hours of gameplay, especially if they want to level up all 5 classes.
     
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  6. TrapinchO

    TrapinchO retired observer of the wiki VIP+ Featured Wynncraftian

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    TLDR:
    Wynn: Wynn
    HBS: Wynn but all gathering and crafting with no bombs or ingredients or hunted
     
  7. dr_carlos

    dr_carlos Morph Gang! VIP+

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    More like;
    Wynn: Wynn
    HSB: Wynn but all gathering an crafting with no bombs or ingredients or hunted, but with 'quests' that are more like annoying tasks, and with a sometimes toxic community.
     
  8. StormDragon4

    StormDragon4 Horribly Inactive HERO

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    Sometimes? From what I've gathered the community is VERY toxic.
     
  9. Fingolfin

    Fingolfin High king of the Noldor

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    your 101% correct , flame wars 24/7 , entitled brats every where , peoples only arguments are "ur poor haha lol"
     
  10. dr_carlos

    dr_carlos Morph Gang! VIP+

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    Just trying to not offend anyone :‎worried‎:
     
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  11. CountBurn

    CountBurn Hackysack? HERO

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    people actually talk to you on skyblock, it's so common in wynn you try to talk to someone and they just ignore you
     
  12. Thonck

    Thonck I Need the Yopyop Sauce VIP

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    I don't know what you're talking about, 99% of players I talk to don't ignore me. Usually if we cross paths they'll at least say hi.
     
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  13. dr_carlos

    dr_carlos Morph Gang! VIP+

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    I generally don't talk much to people but if someone says hi I respond back if I see it...
     
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  14. CountBurn

    CountBurn Hackysack? HERO

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    oh that's why nobody wants to talk to me..
     
  15. chryssie

    chryssie ultimate cur hater CHAMPION

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    the second biggest problem with hsb is the cheaters crowding every leaderboard unlike wynn. i used to have farming/pumpkin #1 but theres no use trying to keep it since cheaters can easily pass you
     
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  16. Da Homeboi

    Da Homeboi maybe tell me if somethings wrong with the wiki HERO

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    I think the reason why there aren't as many cheaters in Wynn is probably because the whole game revolves around grinding.

    Of course, there are professions, but there are only certain spots where they could be harvested, which would be a pretty hard hack to make.

    And there's also Hunted and other PvP aspects, in fact Hunted revolves around it, and I think it could be due to a zero-tolerance policy to hacks.
     
  17. QKhanh2308

    QKhanh2308 Well-Known Adventurer VIP+

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    The most problematic thing about hsb is it rewards stomping others. Wynn, pretty much you can't do that. No one can kill enough zombies at ragni so newbies can't level up, and so on.
    And the only decent piece of story is in dungeons which you need to dump unpresidented amount of hours into to get journal pages. When you're bored in wynn, you do a quest, and it always have some story, some more than others.
    I play both, alternatively. HSB does have one better thing, which is the dungeons, and boy did it delivered.
     
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  18. Skylaar

    Skylaar erm VIP+

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    that one disagree was me
     
  19. 1_b0t

    1_b0t Travelled Adventurer

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    Hmmm ok...?
    I mean its toxic yea but hsb is pretty fun.
    The money system is a lot better ngl, in wynn the currency actually takes up inventory space, and after the fact that you lose 4 slots to accessories and then 3 for the menus, you kinda have a lot less space.
     
  20. Dwicey

    Dwicey mmmyes CHAMPION

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    You do have a bank to put your money and items into. If money took up no inventory space, there would be most likely be many many more emeralds introduced into the economy, which could potentially cause a general rise in the price level (inflation) of endgame items, which would make it exponentially harder for newer players to compete and join the economy, or get the gear they want. From what I know, HSB has pretty damn bad inflation and market prices (may be wrong), so saying that their money system is better is eh
     
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