World 1.12, Loops, Functions And How It Could Improve Wynncraft

Disclaimer: I know wynncraft is still in 1.8 but they will eventually drop that version of the game!
Also, if you didn't know, I'm french, expect some mistakes

FUNCTIONS​

Heya! I'm here to talk about the recently added functions, and how Wynncraft could use them.
I assume that not much people around here know about functions, so allow me to explain!

Functions allow players to run a list of command using text files, in one command. They were added in 1.12.
For example, I can do this:

1. say hi
2. say 1
3. say 2

You can save this as a .mcfunction file, and then you can instantly run it using /function world:filename and it will run these commands without the need of any command blocks.

With this addition comes another great one, the gameloop function. What this basically does is repeating a function over and over, with barely any lag (depending on what you do, overflowing your world with cows will sure make your world lag).

Now that I briefly explained what a function is, I can get back to Wynncraft.
If wynncraft replaces some of their systems with functions, it'll make for a more enjoyable experience.
Why? They could replace tripwires. New players are often disturbed by the sounds they make.
But most importantly, by replacing tripwires, players in dungeons/other teleporters won't get stuck for example. All with a simple /tp in the looping function!

The quests cutscenes will be more of a surprise, when you hear the click of a tripwire, you always expect that something is gonna happen.

Now, you probably think that this is gonna cause lag. Wynncraft made it clear that they don't like clocks!
Except that functions are extremely optimized, and with the upcoming 1.13 it'll run better than ever (but this is for another day, we still got time)

Tripwires aren't a real source of lag in Wynncraft, but I feel like they're kinda annoying (personal opinion). Functions are an easy way to replace them, with still no command blocks.
Command blocks will still be used in various occasions, like buttons, cutscenes(?) or else. Even though some of these could be replaced with functions once again (not looped function, just a single one)

Why do I want to replace command blocks?
Compared to functions, command blocks aren't greatly optimized and can cause lag, which is why Wynncraft doesn't allow clocks. (Also they're still using 1.8 so that's kinda outdated)

Your gameplay experience won't change much, and that could only be an improvement to Wynncraft. This could also allow for better hoppers.

Pros:
+Fix the dungeon parties problems
+Less sound, less annoying
+Easy to implement (I suppose)
+Shouldn't cause lag
+Will allow for more stuff

Cons:
-Will be hard for the CMDs to work with a single function for all the server, however doing a Google Docs to work would work
-Also harder for the CMDs to try out their stuff, as you need to /reload when changing functions (the devs could create a command and make it useable by CMDs?)
-Add cons here, I probably forgot stuff!

oh boy i never did such a long thread

TL;DR:

• When Wynn updates to 1.12, will allow usage of functions
• They can replace tripwires and fix dungeon parties
• Allow all sort of cool stuff
• Optimized and probably wouldn't cause lag

I am fairly certain I forgot important stuff as always, so please tell me if something is wrong so I can change the thread!
oh also let me tag @Aarontti i'm pretty sure he's interested in that

 

They can probably transfer the 1.12 features if jumla doesn't spill his coffee

 

Sounds pretty cool, I've never really looked into functions! +1!

 

I dont know if the cmds will say no cuz its too hard or if they would agree

But that doesnt really matter, Dab on them haters

 

Coffee only mildly affects the forums.

You know, if we had a really good CT, they could figure out a way to make this work in 1.8.

From what I can tell, this is just a kind of interface so you don't have to do any java coding.

Could be possible with java.

 

This could work, but maybe it wouldn't be as optimized? And maybe it'd take time to implement that feature in 1.8, but yes that could work
and to do a function you could just open your usual text editor it works with everything

The CMDs can still work with the command blocks for their puzzles and stuff, but it'd be easier to implement tps and replacing future tripwires

 

For performance reasons, they dont want the files to be repeating themselves constantly, meaning if you want it to be run only once, tripwires are the way to go. A ton of performance issues fixed right there.

 

the point was that functions are optimized in a good ways, if the requirement is not met (player is in x position), the command will just skip itself, it causes no lag

 

sounds good to me, though I highly doubt they would skip 3 updates just to do this. Grian said the major reason they don't update is that the commands for command blocks change with each update, so they would have to re implement a lot of stuff in the game.

 

there is only 1 problem with this suggestion don't only admin's have console and are the only ones able to add these functions?

 

that's up to the staff to know how they manage this, they could trust the cmd I don't think there's any "traitors" in the team? Or they could simply do a thing where the CMDs have access ONLY to the functions part of the world

fair point, that is definitely possible considering that even in 1.13 most of the commands will change (but according to Dinnerbone, they probably won't change after 1.13)

 

I stopped following mine craft updates after 1.9, so I have no idea what they add.

 

They're working on this right now it's just gonna take a while™.

 

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But for real now:
1.

We can't use clocks. Cmds are already #1 lag issue, lets not make it worse. We dont really know how well functions are optimized.
2.

Problem #1: 1.12 (lol)
Problem #2: you need some shitty ways to open that .mcfunction file... ew... Cmbs are much easier: you just place blocks and paste commands

 

Yeah I said in the OP that clocks are a nono for Wynn, it's written somewhere in the CMD application website I believe?

For the past year we've been getting some 1.9 features, so they're doing stuff to update. Once they update to 1.9, the newer versions should get there faster than 1.8->1.9. In fact, they can even skip 1.10, nothing changed!

I'm not saying that it'll come tomorrow tho. But I expect that in a year or two, there's a chance that the server will be 1.9+?

Functions are pretty clean and feel like you're really coding stuff. You can use great text editors (Sublime, Notepad++), nothing else. It's just that they're a lot more optimized than command blocks, especially with the loop function.

Maybe it'd work on Wynn, maybe not. I just thought this was worth giving a try! :D

Command blocks are better for some stuff, and some people prefer to «code» physically into the game and that's okay :)

 

shots have been fired, 4 to be count

 

I'd like to mention that this is very, very, very, very similar to a thing we already have, called WynnScript. You can get a taste of it in the newer Corkus quests, for example.

 

Spot on jolly old fellow!

 

Jesus christ you guys have your own programming language to?

 

I find it humorous that we had something super similar to this suggestion many months before 1.12 even came out. (and it's more efficient in terms of unit testing)