‌psa: ‌our ‌life/mana ‌steal ‌probabilities ‌are ‌fucked

We will :D

 

mmmyes we shall melee the Detlas target dummies into submission in our quest for the truth

 

you can include all the weird interactions like how some stats like ws take ~4-5s to load onto your character if you don't prompt a change in your stats (by changing weapon or sth)

 

Mana regen is /5s and mana steal is /3s. That means it averages out to /4s so the game is still flawless and correct ☺️

 

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You know what, yes. I'm going to try to calculate the actual mana steal time that would exactly balance mana regen being every 5 seconds.
Firstly, I suppose I should explain why/show that 5 and 3 do not balance correctly. They would if they were the numerators, but since they are the denominators. they do not. If you have, for example, 4/3 ms and 4/5 mr, after 4 seconds, you will get 16/3 ms + 16/5 mr = 80/15 ms + 48/15 mr = 128/15 total mana, which is not equal (but is close) to the normal 8 you would get if they were both 4/4.
If we want to get 8 total mana, the 3 will need to be slightly increased to compensate for 128 being too large. (Or the 5, actually, but I'm going to mess with the 3 since more people know about the 5, I think.) 8 times 15 is 120, so if the 16/5 (or 48/15) mr stays the same, the 16/3 ms must turn into a value equal to 72/15 ms, or 14.4/3 ms. Multiplying both the numerator and the denominator by 16/14.4 gives 16/3.33.
Therefore, if my math here is correct, mana steal needs to be changed to proc every 3.33 seconds rather than every 3 if we want them to average to /4s. Alternatively, they could both be changed to /4s, but that'd be boring and I wanted to do this. (I'm fairly certain there are quicker ways to do this, but this was the most obvious one and I'm too lazy to think of another.)

 

We live in a society where mana chances are unequal for the people ! ! 1! Wake up bovemists, you'rE good is lie ing 2 u!

 

finally i can justifiably take a massive shit on spell spammers

 

Try something like this

 

I almost died laughing when I saw "wynncraft is a very flawless game" but yeah the way stealing works is really stupid, I actually made a thread around a month ago with a proposal for a life steal rework and this is why, it just sucks on anything other than super slow because of how inconsist it is

 

anyways check out haise thread for lifesteal changes
https://forums.wynncraft.com/threads/life-steal-mini-rework.284767

 

Sick, ty for the response

 

I was going to say, didn't it originally list it as being /3s when Gavel first came out?

 

But isn't the MR still /4s because it takes 5 ticks to activate but each tick is .8s iirc?

 

Nah that’s also broken go check out hppeng’s thread on it

 

It's actually very unsettling that mana steal is working better than intended, it's really bad as it is right now so if it's fixed it'll be laughably unusable, so can't wait for that to ruin spellsteal :)

 

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I did not long after posting this lol

 

Does this imply fixing the mana steal only, both, or only that mana regen "may" get changed to x/4 or not at all?