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  1. pantsTM
    pantsTM
    Yes. They're all defensive or low leveled.
    Jun 22, 2017
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  2. Undyne
    Undyne
    I thought air was the opposite of defensive. Plus, I found a "mythic" air spear that I built a build for, but with everyone making derogatory comments about "add air spear" I'm not sure if it's a good idea to use it, even with its high health regen...
    Jun 22, 2017
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  3. pantsTM
    pantsTM
    Air is supposed to be the opposite of defensive, but the air spears are defensive anyways...
    People just don't like Hero because it has a measly 10 strength min.
    Jun 22, 2017
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  4. pantsTM
    pantsTM
    Also, is there a thread for it? Because I'd like to see it.
    Jun 22, 2017
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  5. Undyne
    Undyne
    Jun 22, 2017
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  6. Pokextreme
    Pokextreme
    We really need a GOOD Non-MYTHIC air spear. The ratity of mythics makes them not countable for if an item exists
    R.X. What if there was no air bow except stratiformis
    Hero is geared more towards air/earth, as opposed to just air, but it's a really underrated item. It's really fun to use, even if it's beaten in the current meta
    Jun 22, 2017
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  7. Undyne
    Undyne
    Honestly there's Harwrol but again that's air/earth and as far as I know barely anyone uses it. Warrior has Ignition for fire, Tidebinder for water, Rikter/Bedruthan for earth, Scythe for thunder, but really no pure air spear (not counting "mythics").
    Jun 22, 2017
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  8. Pokextreme
    Pokextreme
    Exactly. Wick is also thunder, but FRENZY is our air option
    Jun 22, 2017
  9. Undyne
    Undyne
    Considering legendaries are used most often in end-game builds, it would be nice if someone added a pure air spear meant for end-game that was legendary and not ultra rare like "mythics" are.
    Jun 22, 2017
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  10. Pokextreme
    Pokextreme
    Or even just a good rare
    Jun 22, 2017
  11. Pokextreme
    Pokextreme
    Or a good unique
    Jun 22, 2017
  12. Undyne
    Undyne
    Basically air warrior builds are discouraged unless the "mythic" finds you and binds itself to you. And that probably won't happen to even 1% of the player base.

    Even if it's an altar reward, a decent-enough air spear needs to be created for end-game use after hearing this.
    Jun 22, 2017
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  13. Pokextreme
    Pokextreme
    The issue with hero is that the 10 strength requirement blocks one of the best helmets for one of the bet air builds. It stops use of cumulonimbus
    Jun 22, 2017
  14. Undyne
    Undyne
    Considering it's only a 10 point difference affecting the usage, there might eventually be a skill point item that increases the skill points high enough to breach this amount.
    Jun 23, 2017
  15. Pokextreme
    Pokextreme
    That's a pretty big amount of commitment though.
    Jun 23, 2017
  16. Undyne
    Undyne
    Someone will try to find a solution once new items come out. If they can make builds that abuse items meant to hinder you in some way, they can do the same with this situation.
    Jun 23, 2017
  17. Pokextreme
    Pokextreme
    Idk. Seems simpler to just add one. Even that 10 strength requirement seems to push you towards dune storm dond-, which works, but ehhh
    Jun 23, 2017
  18. Undyne
    Undyne
    So you're saying that there's no way to add Cumulonimbus, even if you had high skill point items like Gigabyte or Hive items?
    Jun 23, 2017
  19. Pokextreme
    Pokextreme
    At best you are only taking a 24 sp loss, but the issue is how sp intensive builds are that 24 is a massive loss. Just cumulonimbus and hero alone, with ideal ids is 90+74 or 164 sp. that's already a huge commitment
    Jun 23, 2017
  20. Undyne
    Undyne
    Well, if you were to use Dune Storm, Aerie plate, Hive leggings, and Paradox, you would need a layout of 70/20/33/33/80, or 236 total sp. That's 36 above the allotted 200, but Gigabyte erases 20 sp, Aerie plate can give up to 20 str, and Paradox can give up to 11 in both str and def.
    Jun 23, 2017
  21. Pokextreme
    Pokextreme
    I prefer Capricorn, but it's really so tight. You need prowess and summas/prisms
    Jun 23, 2017
  22. Undyne
    Undyne
    You could reduce this further if you used other accessories like Hive accessories, Summa, etc. So, through accessories and armor bonuses, large reductions in sp are possible.
    Jun 23, 2017
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  23. Pokextreme
    Pokextreme
    But ya, you kinda get pushed towards dune / aerie playe due to the nature of hero.
    Jun 23, 2017
  24. Pokextreme
    Pokextreme
    Fair enough. The powder slots, melee ids and reqs though makes it more of a hybrid earth air though. You could build other ways, but doing so is just kinda awkward due to the kinda random 10 str
    Jun 23, 2017
  25. Undyne
    Undyne
    The thing is, the Strength issue doesn't mean you need to deal earth damage. Dune Storm is a decent helmet on its own with decent ws, and a good Aerie plate is also really useful since it's lv100 and the fight is near Orange Wybel level (400,000 tank archer with annoying sanic minion...).
    Jun 23, 2017
  26. Undyne
    Undyne
    The earth hybrid basically makes your melee stronger, which is a good thing since the weapon is somewhat built around melee damage.
    Jun 23, 2017
  27. Pokextreme
    Pokextreme
    To be honest though, if your putting so much into strength, you should run at least one Earth powder. Hero is built towards melee, as opposed to spell, pushing players to air earth. It's damage may be air, but it really wants to be both
    Jun 23, 2017
  28. Mistrise Mystic
    Mistrise Mystic
    First off, Spearmint
    Second off, Welcome to a thunder assassin's life
    Jun 24, 2017
  29. Aya
    Aya
    if you guys want an air spear, if selvut does another naming contest, make an air spear if you guys win (or ask the winner for it..? bleh who cares)
    Jul 5, 2017
  30. Undyne
    Undyne
    Well I can't exactly enter the naming contest because GMs aren't allowed to participate. However, you guys can try and see if you can get to the top.
    Jul 5, 2017
  31. Aya
    Aya
    oh you are a GM
    i thought you were a builder?
    Jul 5, 2017
  32. Pokextreme
    Pokextreme
    I bet selvut already made it, and is waiting for the map push
    Jul 5, 2017