honestly though i don't think a moderator or anyone on this forum should talk about this, this is a minecraft server forum.. just stirring up more drama really.. if someone is talking about anti gay or something, they should be punished by a moderator?????
Um... the thing is though that it Moe is being who he is... and tbh, I think that if he were to stop doing this, then he'd lose a part of himself... and either way, he isn't trying to hurt anyone's feelings by saying it... in fact, he's one of the nicest mods there is...
Then again, I might just have a bias toward this topic... because I'm bi myself... regardless, that's what I believe in this topic.
i agree that this stuff needs to be acknowledged and fought against and stuff, but people usually come to a video game(forum) to get away from real life drama, and i don't think politics or anything of the sort should be brought up here - this place is about fun and everyone getting along and if anyone is being hateful they should be asked to leave
basically what i'm saying is, there shouldn't even be a need for his profile picture or post, because if anyone started being hateful on here about this sort of stuff, they should just be taken off, completely averting the whole situation
I understand that point...
but how I see it is that either way, it shows the people that would be hateful in that way, that he is a supporter, and that they aren't welcome to be hateful... Idk, it just is kind of a "warning" sign to those people that are hateful in that way. Just so that they know the mods won't stand for it. Idk, to me, I'm 100% fine with it, because it makes me feel safer than I already do.
You know, this leads to a question that's... "interesting." Given Moe's "get over it" attitude, would he go as far as to harass a person until they leave or worse: commit suicide? Because if that's the route Moe's gonna take if push comes to a hard shove, then that marks him as an SJW.
Well, it seems that some things escaped my attention. @Bloopers , if you read our rules of the game and forums, you're going to find this: "10. Harassment of other players.
(Includes, but is not limited to, making fun of mental illness and other psychological issues that one may have.)" No harassment means no harassment.
We are an inclusive community. All too often, it is the bigots who stir up the drama. A big part of the job of being a moderator, is to keep drama down. Drama, in any form. Most of the non-trade drama that happens is about either politics or religion, and gender issues have been brought into both of those realms.
Hence, should moderators be involved? Absolutely. And our stance is simple: don't attack anyone for their religion or their gender or their age or their color or any other personal reason. If their logic is faulty, that's usually another story. But bias and bigotry don't wash here.
@ShadowMage1 , I assure you, an SJW I am not, nor would I ever be. I am absolutely not disingenuous about believing in human rights, for every one. I do not joke about it nor do I kid about it irl. I don't tolerate it around me, either.
i agree with everything you said 100%, however my point before was that avoiding a situation like this would be simpler if the people who are racist, sexist etc are just straight up banned. i don't think there should be a need for this post or your profile picture in the first place - whoever it is that was saying stuff that caused you to make this post should have been banned.
ok but setting your profile picture to what you have, is so dramatic and absolutely stirs up drama! this is my entire point - this is a minecraft server - there should not be any drama, whoever causes drama should be asked to stop or else they should be banned. a profile picture, that is seen on every single post that you make, everywhere on this forum
adding: not only does it appear on every post, it also appears on the very first page of the forum, if you are online, because of the moderators online.
tbf if you're claiming the simple fact that he has a profile picture like this will spontaneously cause drama, then I think this drama might as well start by itself lmao
I'm pretty sure people who don't agree with the progressive left can still tolerate having one profile picture like this popping every so often (hello me)
@Bloopers , it would be wonderful if bigots would open their mouths, once too often, and be "straight up banned" from the internet. However, that is never going to happen. So far, the ONLY person who complained about my profile pic is YOU. I'm fully aware that my profile pic "is seen on every single post that I [you] make, everywhere on this forum". That's not news to anyone.
"whoever causes drama should be asked to stop or else they should be banned" - @Bloopers
OK, if you say so. Stop causing drama on the forums. I've used my "Get over it" avatar for almost a year. In fact, I made it. As I've said, YOU'RE the only one causing drama over it right now, everyone else was honest enough to admit to their own bigotry, and they stopped. You should, too.
Because next thing you know, just because of maybe a slight miss wording, somehow moe becomes the next Snowing, even though he doesn't deserve that... I feel like both sides are right AND wrong... but I feel like this has just gone off to an argument... and I don't want to see that between friends of mine...
@ShadowMage1 , I don't know where you got the idea that I ever said that you even HINTED at a touch of bigotry! I've never known you to behave that way, even in the slightest. If I said something that makes you believe that, please point it out to me, and I'll clarify it, edit it, if needed, whatever, because that's a misunderstanding. A really bad misunderstanding, too, that I want to fix ASAP.
@IllusionarySpy , "I'm pretty sure people who don't agree with the progressive left can still tolerate having one profile picture like this popping every so often (hello me)". The same goes for you as for Shadow. I don't have any problem with what you said; not everyone has to believe the same things as everyone else, and that certainly doesn't make you a bigot.
@IllusionarySpy , the other people that got upset by it, the one or two that said anything at all, stopped, after a short discussion with them. That entire comment was directed at Bloopers, who just wouldn't stop, until I asked him to. It had nothing to do with you or ShadowMage1. It was a flat-out challenge to Bloopers to stop, because his 'it might cause drama' argument is fallacious.
Guys... please... stop arguing... I don't want to see my friends arguing... it's happened enough through my life, and I've lost a lot of friends due to it, so please just stop... it really doesn't matter that much IMO... I don't want to see friends arguing, so please just stop...
But arguing can also be stopped by politely stating your side of the story, and opinion, and then leaving it at that... and I'm saying that to both sides, because I am actually really getting sick of the arguing... I don't want this to go on, because my friends are involved.
"As I've said, YOU'RE the only one causing drama over it right now, everyone else was honest enough to admit to their own bigotry."
When you said "everyone else," that means you directed that to everyone in this conversation or the forums, which, in turn, implies that I've admitted to my own bigotry.
@ShadowMage1 , I was referring to people who made an issue about my profile pic, which you never did. I'm sorry for the confusion. I wasn't trying to imply anything negative about anyone else in this conversation, other than about Bloopers constant comments.
Bloopers, your argument is fallacious because my avatar isn't causing drama, YOU are causing the drama about what drama my avatar MIGHT cause, that it has never caused in the past. Your supposed concern is more problematic than anything that my avatar has caused.
This conversation is over, Bloopers, as far as you are concerned. You've lost. You need to stop bugging me. No more "Please stop", just STOP.
like i said before "you're the boss, mr mod man" was supposed to be the end of the conversation. i don't know who it was that sparked it back up but whatever, sure, i've "lost" if that makes you feel better, mr macho mod man.
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