World General feedback and ideas for the 'Upcoming' Wynnexcavation rework

I've had ideas on how to tackle the rework for this but was intimidated by the fact that I would make myself write the whole re-made dialogue for a suggestion, but now that we know the questline is getting reworked I can limit myself to just summarize my idea and feedback and hope this post can help when reworking the questline.

The objective of this post is to give my general vision of how a reworked wynnexcavation questline would be without departing too much from the current state of it and preserving the structure.

First, Start with the main things I like and I don't like:

+ I think the quest's structure is great, separating it in 4 sites around wynn is great both in progression (they are generally in the areas you are on already) and the idea of 4 dungeons holding the crystals is great, but...

- The excavation sites are barely dungeons, and more like glorified walks with 1 or 2 mostly out of place puzzles and a parkour section (which generally dont work in wynn because of movement spells existing). also sites B and C barely pass as dungeons and are more glorified caves with a crystal in the end. I can excuse this for C as it's a volcano but B feels pathetic.

+ The ending really works. What a better way to end the 'wynn province finale' quest than going back to the beginning and have a talk with the king of Ragni. I dont think any of the dialogue or anything that happens there needs updating, maybe update the room it takes place (I LOVE slab-spam) so it looks better.

- Amadel is just a terrible villain, and by terrible I mean I consider him the worst major antagonist in the game. He's a twist villain with barely any presence that comes out of nowhere and the fact that he gives no hints of his betrayal makes the reveal have no impact (if you overlook the fact that there's no way the only relevant character in the quest will not be the villain).

- The final boss makes no sense... mostly: corrupted amadel and shadow amadel just... exist. there's no reason for them existing they are just there because (maybe to pad out the fight?). The final fight works and the 'free kill' after that is a nice addition.

Now to actual ideas: Maybe some of this doesnt fully make sense. I tried leaving this fairly summarized so I did not include everything.

• Amadel shall stay as a twist villain, but instead of existing he will occupy a role akin to Ava or Lari. He would be your companion through the questline and accompany you through the sites. Instead of being a 'traitor' he would be sort of a 'detective' that already has knowledge of the company's intentions (he's the leader after all). Amadel could provide stuff like map with the crystal's locations or occasion info on the objective (and maybe even help with puzzles and puzzle bossfights)
  Personality-wise Amadel could be made likeable and not deep, but as the quest progress I think it would be fun to make his 'good guy' facade start to crack as he starts failing to cover up his power-hungry personality right until he is revelaled as a villain.
  Finally, There should be a believable reason why the player was involved in the quest, which could be explaned as 'Amadel's men were unable to subdue the yellow crystal's protector so he resorted to tricking adventurers into helping, and you were just so good yet clueless he just decided to used you to get the other ones'.
• The sites: IMO it would be awesome to make this dungeons simmilar to the ones from games like The wind waker (not completely linear, each with their own gimmick and a bossfight protective their respective crystal at the end). While A and D are visually on-point I would make B and C's exteriors look more temple-like. Now on to the individual dungeons:
  
  - A: Should be basic and serve as an introduction. As a re-introduction to the character Amadel would help more than usual and the boss could be a puzzle boss in which you destroy weak-points so Amadel blasts them with TNT or whatever.
  
  - B: Unlike A the wynnexcavation company has not arrived to the site yet (for reasons I will talk about later). The slight water theme could be embraced to create an underwater dungeon, which could re-use mechanics from Galleon's graveyard. Finally, to give it more importance to the questline this Site B could include a lore dump regarding the Olm and the crystals.
  
  - C: Completely contrasting site B this site would be full of wynnexcavation equipment. The initial assembly with an evil cloaked man (Amadel) as the leader remains. After stealthily sneaking into the Olm temple it could bew shown completely scoured and overtaken by the company. The quest's climax happens as the player and Amadel fall into the company's trap, where the other 2 crystals are taken away and a piece of equipment (bossfight) has to be destroyed. Finally, the volcano erupts and as a nod to Misadventure at the sea the player is blown away to the same island, where the seaskipper passes by again.
  
  - D: I dont really have anything planned for this one. The troms section could work if improved the map section does not. In the temple section the player and Amadel would manage to obtain the last crystal just before it is revealed that Amadel has been working on both sides and has achieved his goal. Follow this with final bossfight and the ending with the king of Ragni.
• The Final bossfight: This is a mage-like bossfight based completely on projectiles, and Amadel does no contact damage. The first 2 nonsensical fights are removed and the new boss has 2 phases:
  
  - In the first phase Amadel is still in its villager form and uses the crystal's power individually (i know there's an implied rule against that but i dont care). The gimmick could work with the arena displaying which elemental crystal (electric, water, fire, nature/earth) is being used, and Amadel would have different movesets for each element. This phase serves as sort of a tutorial for...
  
  - In the second phase Amadel turns into a beastly form after getting empowered by the 4 cystals at once. This boss has access to every previous ability, in addition to 'super moves' at specific health checkpoints.

 

can you make this dark mode friendly? middle section is just black

 

I tried stuff but imma be real chief I've no idea how to do this. Left it a neutral gray for the time.
Any help?

 

in colors, click none.
It will default in light mode to black and vice versa

 

Thank you for your help.

 

Hello everyone

 

what?

 

i believe salted or someone said somewhere WynnEx Site A isn't getting reworked with all the other desert quests because the team wants to rework the whole questline at once and not end up with an Aldorei's Secret situation again.

 

I think the main motive for them involving the player was because the ancient magic surrounding the crystals where untouchable by selfish means.
All I hope is that they keep that in, it just adds to the age of the world type lore.

 

Hi again I’m here to revive this thing before it dies a most terrible and painful death

Want to hear me yap about my fanmade rewritten WynnExcavation storyline for hours I love doing that

 

YES!

 

@schwandex Are you in the Wynncraft Discord

 

no

dm me

Tzelofachad

 

I was talking to the OP but yeah sure I guess

I’ll do it later if I remember to

 

u replied to me?

 

I quoted you
I literally pinged the OP in that sentence

 

so i assumed u were talking to both of us?