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The Future of the Wiki

Discussion in 'Wynncraft' started by Da Merryboi, Oct 10, 2023.

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Should the Wiki move off of Fandom?

  1. Absolutely, Fandom is dogshit

  2. Yes, Fandom is bad but it has a few perks

  3. I couldn't care if the wiki stays on Fandom or not

  4. I'd prefer if we stay on Fandom

  5. No, Fandom is a great option

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  1. PotatoGamerEZ

    PotatoGamerEZ Epic Gamer

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    Oh yeah, does "vandalizing" the wiki mean that we post absolutely random stuff on the pages? Cuz idk what it means
     
  2. Da Merryboi

    Da Merryboi maybe tell me if somethings wrong with the wiki HERO

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    Vandalizing is putting useless content on a wiki page. For example:

    Replacing an informative wiki page with "lmao xd get vandalized"

    Replacing a page's content with some advertisement

    And other stuff like this.

    Don't vandalize the Fandom wiki even after we move bc all itll just do is reinforce the Fandom wiki in SEO and not the new wiki. All that'll change is that we just won't do anything to stop it once we've moved.
     
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  3. AmbassadorDazz

    AmbassadorDazz Discord Killjoy Staff Member Moderator HERO

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    Solution: Collectively quit editing anything on Fandom with no notice besides internally (and a community heads-up post - I approve it personally). A few people will still continue editing because they don't know better, but the Admins did mention that the new wiki will get a shoutout.

    As a side note, if they (Fandom) start sending notices as to why you abandoned the old wiki (i.e. no updates to any of the pages in a very long while), straight up ignore them and burn the bridges. You can ask the developer of IndieWikiBuddy to add the freshly moved Wynncraft Wiki to the redirection list once the migration is complete, so anyone with the extension installed will see a persistent notice that Fandom cannot deal with.

    Never give (or have reasons to give) Fandom the benefit of positive user retention/clicks.
     
  4. TrapinchO

    TrapinchO retired observer of the wiki VIP+ Featured Wynncraftian

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    I am not sure whether that would be allowed - to copy the wiki's contents and move on.
    Not too bad of an idea though.


    Regarding the new wiki, I would prefer wiki.gg, maybe ABXY.
     
  5. Da Merryboi

    Da Merryboi maybe tell me if somethings wrong with the wiki HERO

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    Major update #1: A form has been made for where the wiki will migrate to. Fill this out and share it with as many Wynncraft players as you can.

    https://forms.gle/MDv3ATRsxTkgNMQh8
     
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  6. Pumpkinn

    Pumpkinn Well-Known Adventurer VIP+

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    Personally I would happily help doing some of the more manual work of trying to just paste over the wiki stuff we already into wherever it goes.
     
  7. Gameknight14

    Gameknight14 Newbie Adventurer

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    I was fine with the ads, I have an adblocker. My only concern is the amount of upkeep this requires and its public nature. As far as I know, fandom wikis can be edited by anyone. By moving it to the wynncraft website, only trusted individuals who are experienced with the game can edit it. Plus, the search bar feature has stopped working for me as of today and I can't get it to appear again.
     
  8. Ava Cart

    Ava Cart If you don't like Ava you die CHAMPION

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    oh ye I've seen that bug too
     
  9. PotatoGamerEZ

    PotatoGamerEZ Epic Gamer

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    I just saw something INSANE on a wiki. So today, I decided to go on a different game's wiki to find some information. The moment that the page loaded, I got a FULL SCREEN ad instead of the usual. I think that Fandom is definitely getting worse and worse.

    (sorry i couldn't get a screen shot)
     
  10. ikako

    ikako Skilled Adventurer VIP+

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    the wynncraft wiki has an advantage over the minecraft one: wynntils. if wynntils makes the default links for when you open quest pages and such in the quest book the new one, that would redirect a good amount of the players to the new one. yes it's only the more hardcore players who use wynntils but those are the same players who will repeatedly use the wiki, casual players might only use it for one or two specific things.
     
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  11. Avallon

    Avallon Me

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    Is there really nothing there can be done about Fandom keeping wynncraft wiki page up despite no one wanting it xd? well anyway, good luck with that, definitely looking forward to the migration
     
  12. ZockerCam

    ZockerCam Travelling sorcerer. Master of Wind Magic. VIP+

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    Since I've never worked on the wiki, I am in no position to decide on this. Just some input:

    BUT... I personally don't get ads?

    Fandom always looks like this for me:
    (there is only that one honest trailer video that doesn't really bother me)
    Screenshot 2024-01-08 010036.png

    I have no ad blocker on this browser btw... so I simply ask: is it worth the effort to move, especially when Fandom is still going to be the top search result?

    also how many people get insane levels of ads and how many people only experience what I experience?



    (this is not meant to defend Fandom)
     
  13. PlasmaWarrior

    PlasmaWarrior Fishomancer HERO

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    It's a lot worse on mobile.
     
  14. Sir_Doomed

    Sir_Doomed Can't think of anything to put here

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    Don't underestimate casual players. The wiki was pretty much the only reason I completed my first playthrough.
     
  15. Da Merryboi

    Da Merryboi maybe tell me if somethings wrong with the wiki HERO

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    Not a necropost cuz this has valid discussion contribution: after many weeks of procrastination, a request was made to move to wiki.gg!

    This does not mean that we are instantly over there, but stay tuned for updates on this.
     
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  16. Iced0ut

    Iced0ut yes

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    great! cant wait for it.
     
  17. VerseLaFlamme

    VerseLaFlamme Travelled Adventurer

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    I absolutely hate fandom, chrome freaked out whenever I opened it before I installed adblockers.
     
  18. Da Merryboi

    Da Merryboi maybe tell me if somethings wrong with the wiki HERO

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    On another update, the new wiki is preparing for public release! Some extra stuff will have to be done for polishing the final product, but there is light at the end of the tunnel!

    In order to prepare for this:
    • Do not change the Fandom wiki. This is mainly to reduce the amount of stuff that has to be ported over to wiki.gg. This also includes vandalism or corrections, as clicks are engagement and will harm the wiki's place in the search results.
    • Try your best to avoid Fandom links at the time being, again because of search enginge optimization.
    • Spread the word! Let as many Wynncraft players that you know that the new wiki will be on wiki.gg and not Fandom.
    And if you really want to help out as many independent wikis as possible, as @AmbassadorDazz (iirc sry if i got it wrong but you know who you are!) mentioned, get the Indie Wiki Buddy extension, and preferably set it to auto-redirect you to the independent wiki. The Wynncraft Wiki, once it's moved to wiki.gg, will submit a form for it to be covered by Indie Wiki Buddy.

    EDIT: Salted has also made Fandom get rid of the official wiki tag on the Fandom wiki! Some issues have to be resolved with some templates on wiki.gg but we're nearing the end of this chapter!
     
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  19. PotatoGamerEZ

    PotatoGamerEZ Epic Gamer

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    YEAAA FINALLY AN ALTERNATIVE TO FANDOM LETS GO
     
  20. Da Merryboi

    Da Merryboi maybe tell me if somethings wrong with the wiki HERO

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    Update: We're almost there! Just maybe a few extra tweaks here and there but the wait is almost over!
     
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