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Dungeons The eldritch outlook

Discussion in 'General Suggestions' started by NerdyGamer2012, Nov 14, 2023.

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Should the parkour be easier?

  1. Yes

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  2. No (explain why)

    55.6%
  3. The door to the portal should not be locked

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  1. NerdyGamer2012

    NerdyGamer2012 Skilled Adventurer VIP

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    The dungeon should be easy until the boss. So that he can kill you fast... But it is not.

    Mayby for some people the parkour is easy but i spended 4 hours on it and failed in killing the boss...

    Why don't we just make the barrier blocks other blocks so that they are visible, believe it or not but that would make it a lot easier. I'm not bad at parkour but it still takes me at least 1 hour even with 30 fov and an double vision.

    Also because of this if you're bad at parkour you will never be able to unlock hunted.


    Another possebility is not locking the portal to dern behind the eldritch outlook.
     
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  2. DrGREEN

    DrGREEN wynncraft.wiki.gg is where its AT CHAMPION

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    They should buff the eye
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    Also look down
     
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  3. NerdyGamer2012

    NerdyGamer2012 Skilled Adventurer VIP

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    I did look down, also my new record is 30 mins (first 2 in 10, last 2 in 20)
     
  4. DrGREEN

    DrGREEN wynncraft.wiki.gg is where its AT CHAMPION

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    If you have lots of walk speed I recommend taking off your gear and turning down fov
     
  5. Mardeknius

    Mardeknius Knight of Blood Item Team HERO

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    I disagree with "the dungeon should be easy until the boss", however I do agree that the parkour is absurd and unnecessary. It's so difficult with no justification, and wastes so much time.
     
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  6. NerdyGamer2012

    NerdyGamer2012 Skilled Adventurer VIP

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    I think that it is good now it is now with exception of the parkour.
     
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  7. BlueTheSniper

    BlueTheSniper Founder of Blue Builds CHAMPION

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    skill issue
     
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  8. ThePurpleEmerald

    ThePurpleEmerald Famous Adventurer

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    I legit can't physically understand how people find any issues with EO Parkour

    But given that there is a clear split between people who find no trouble with doing object permeance parkour and people who cannot visualize invisible platforms I'll have to assume that certain people just aren't able to perceive the parkour in a way that lets them pass it

    In which case there isn't really anything we can do about it, I just have to accept that a good half or less of the people who do EO parkour are simply just physically unable to... uh, handle perspective that way. Whatever it's called.
     
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    Elytry The Previous Usernames Tab VIP

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    Honestly part of it is distance. Where the blocks are on your screen doesn't correlate perfectly to where the barriers are. Also, if you are not looking straight down, it's pretty impossible. Also, parkouring while looking directly at the ground can be a challenge.
     
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  10. ThePurpleEmerald

    ThePurpleEmerald Famous Adventurer

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    It's less of that and more of just being able to visualize the invisible blocks based on the glowstone at the bottom. I can do the parkour just fine this way
     
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  11. DrGREEN

    DrGREEN wynncraft.wiki.gg is where its AT CHAMPION

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    The blocks are further down so it’s just visualizing the right distance in your head, you should have enough time to see it as you can see platforms ahead that are on the ground

    it’s disorienting, but I low key don’t want to see it go. Telling people who ask what the parkour is and and saying “oh, it’s invisible” is fun.

    it isn’t really ment to be a challenge, just a time waster
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    The door is supposed to be closed because lore wise you need to be able to kill the eye to reach dern portal. Beating eo logically would open its doors, and with the eye beaten you can escape into dern for whatever reason
     
  12. Bixlo

    Bixlo Got drip like pablo HERO

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    IMO: the parkour is more annoying than good parkour. It just makes it irritating. The eye boss should absolutely get buffed. Ive soloed it so much and compared to todays 2.0 bosses feels weak.
     
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    Silent Boss Critically Shameless

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    Parkour gets pretty easy once you do it a few times. Jump height equipment also helps.

    The Eye didn't get any weaker, players has become stronger. Only thing really adjusted to 2.0 powercreep would be TNA, but there is people who kill Greg in few seconds.

    There is nothing about EO parkour or The Eye that should be changed in my opinion.
     
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    An anti frustration skip could be a way to help those who get stuck on the parkour.

    Maybe after 10 minutes in the room you get a prompt to skip it.

    I agree that the parkour it's harder than the average and had problems with it myself.

    For the people saying that would be cheating let me remember you can cheat all the others combat parts of the entire game if you are carried in a party.

    It wouldnt mean anything and it would help people complete the dugeon, something that will be essential once Dern is acessible.
     
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  15. NilsGameIdiot

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    so do you guys just not hold the shift key or something
     
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    We hold shift. The shift key does not guarantee landing on an invisible platform.
    Some people have trouble visualizing things. Also, not everyone is amazing at parkour. The parkour in these cases serves as a targeted disadvantage.
     
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    There are many people, including myself, who struggle greatly with the EO parkour, even while following some of , or all of, the common tips given (hold shift to the edges, use jump height gear, take off +ws equipment, look down, turn FoV all the way down). Many of these people are literally physically unable to do well on this type of parkour, and people who don't have these issues often disregard their problems, and just repeat the same advice over and over.
    Personally I don't think that the EO parkour should be nerfed, as too many people like it as is, and less-abled people will still struggle, though less so; nor should this parkour be fundamentally changed to other blocks, as alone the EO parkour is an interesting and unique gimmick, and if changed to other blocks, would just be an extremely easy and average parkour.
    Instead, a pity skip system should be added, with a long enough delay before said skip is offered, so that someone actually capable of completing the parkour normally wouldn't benefit from simply waiting for the skip to be offered. A change like this would prevent players from being locked from 2 really fun bossfights, several fun pieces of gear, one of the longest quests in the game, and an entire gamemode, and later, an entire dimension, overall enhancing the experience of a good chunk of the playerbase, and improving player retention, as people will be less likely to quit the moment they reach EO.
     
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  18. NerdyGamer2012

    NerdyGamer2012 Skilled Adventurer VIP

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    If they would make an skip of the parkour they would need to make it so that you cannot skip it while afk
     
  19. Mardeknius

    Mardeknius Knight of Blood Item Team HERO

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    But you do agree that the player should be nerfed, right? The Eye shouldn't be as trivial as it is

    also yeah what everyone else in this thread has said: I get that for most people the parkour is really easy, but there's a REALLY LARGE chunk of us who keep struggling with it. Like, if we were THAT marginalized, if it was a tiny group of people, you wouldn't see threads like this appearing all the time
    I personally happen to have a really big problem with visualizing things just, like, in general (I don't conjure images in my head while reading books, for instance), and the EO parkour is frankly hellish. I've stopped running EO on archer entirely 'cause I just can't do it without cheesing it with one of the other classes' movements.
     
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    The door will remain locked. That is part of the lore.
     
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