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World LEGENDARY ISLAND REWORK (kinda)

Discussion in 'General Suggestions' started by CashorCard, Aug 7, 2023.

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Should LI be Changed

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  2. Yes, but your Idea needs work

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  1. CashorCard

    CashorCard Apotheosis

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    Title is somewhat misleading but it’s the best way to get the message across
    ALSO: this is my opinion, sorry if it’s a garbage take, it’s just something I wanted to share
    LEGENDARY ISLAND
    Fight Mechanical versions of Famous past Bosses
    Right?



    Obviously not the Official Tagline but it’s what LI was made to be, however the “famous” bosses are quite outdated and some could use a fresh coat of paint

    Let’s go through the bosses I think deserve this spot, which is actually more than half

    Titanium RatX
    From Giant Rat, to colossal Rat, to Titanium Rat, gaining notoriety from its Meme, and humor earns a spot

    Death Metal
    ToA is a like a Pre-Qira Hive without the good Armor or Accessories but despite that ToA has a long History with Wynn back when armor changed your skin, and Maelstrom, Scythe, Eternal, and Chakram reigned supreme, also ToA has enough influence to warrant a spot here

    MCoW
    Fun boss, and based on an enemy that is important to the lore, makes for a great fight and definitely has enough influence to stay.

    Robob
    Based on bob, not a lot to say, it is worthy being here, powerful, cocky, and imposing, 9.9/10

    Cybel
    based on the Boss alter, and also the evil cretins, and even has a plushy, I think it deserves a spot, for its power, and imposing strength despite its small fluffy stature.

    Bosses that do Deserve the spot, but I feel should be at least reworked

    Doctor Legendary
    It’s weird but the fight is kinda boring/annoying? For the final boss the LI it’s strong but just kinda… ehhhh though I see boundless potential in it

    Virus Doctor
    Honestly a good fight, acts as a semi gate keeper, it’s challenging and is accurate to the original. I wish it would have a special poison like attack, but in its current state it’s fine. It makes it on here due to not really having a lot of influence, it’s a boss you could easily miss early game, despite that it still has SOME influence and is at least famous ENOUGH for it to get a spot on LI

    now those I think should be removed

    Mummyboard,
    based on the level 38 Quest Wraith of the Mummy. Mummyboard is just kinda there. Maybe because the pun was easy but it really just kinda feels out of place

    Matrojan Idol
    an unfun boss, 10 phases and all of them are simply just boring, I’m glad the phases switch up AI, but it kinda just feels like you wail at it for an obnoxiously long time. As for its inclusion in LI it again feels out of place and too obscure

    Corkus Accipientis
    It makes my blood boil what they did to them. I love Generals Orders, it’s a fun quest, and one of the best in my opinion BUT the quest was reworked to not have a boss fight at the end, for some reason and now it’s inclusion in LI makes NO SENSE. There is no boss to have a mechanical form after so it’s just out of thin air now.

    I know it seems like I’m baby raging, and I’m sorry, to the GM, the Builders, and the wynncraft staff who helped Build LI, thank you, the work is impressive and appreciated , I just feel for such an important monument and challenge for Wynn, it’s a tad bit outdated.

    what to change? I think at its Core LI is perfect, the bosses should be changed either to be more interesting (Titanic Rat is a great start) and to include more relevant characters

    Skien - Lore wise is very relevant (I’m not Biased trust) 11 phases is a slight bummer tho

    Amadel - A very Epic boss fight that I feel could be perfectly implemented into LI the only issue is Story wise it could be Tricky


    Quattron - also fun quest, I feel it fits right in, though relevance might be a slight issue

    Lari - Again story wise it could be difficult to implement but I feel she deserves a spot on LI, it would also give us a proper battle against Lari

    Edit: Yeah I’m not the most creative, I struggled to pick bosses so sorry if they are just kinda bad

    Again, sorry for my Baby rage I just feel LI is a bit outdated and could use a nice coat of paint



     
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  2. Da Homeboi

    Da Homeboi maybe tell me if somethings wrong with the wiki

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    Alright this definitely does have some potential, but I don't really agree with some of the stuff here:
    Genuinely my favorite boss in LI, it's really funny and is definitely a treat to see non-bullshit script spells in here. I'd say it definitely might need to become a bit more challenging, but it's overall imo at least an A tier fight.

    Death Metal does definitely warrant a spot here, but this is one of the more bullshit fights simply because of how much there is to manage. This fight is basically a random dice roll if you survive or not, at least from my experiences. Given the sheer difficulty of this fight, this should definitely be put towards the gold tier and not as the final boss of the silver tier. The fight does have some strategy with you using some of the minions as meat shields, and others that should be killed asap as they either nerf you or heal the boss, but eh.

    Unlike it's predecessor Death Metal, Mechorrupter is piss easy. Granted, the sheer simplicity of this fight and yet it somehow feels very compelling is great, but this is too easy. The problem here is the arena. Unlike the original guy who had a smaller arena, Mechorrupter has a giant arena, which can easily trivialize whatever threat he presented. The arena should be shrunk to one of those smaller arenas used in the matrojan or cybel's fight.

    Both of these are good bosses. Cybel is definitely leaning more towards the harder end of difficulty, but I don't I've died to it yet, so eh.
    Both of these are pretty alright. Dr. Legendary could've had more stuff done, like you said. For his most powerful mech, this seems pretty simple. A few script spells could definitely solve the issue, but eh. Virus Doctor is also a neat fight.

    If you didn't know, the mummy got new script spells in the 2.0 update to now debuff you if you stand in the middle of the arena. I wouldn't say it feels out of place, but one thing it definitely does need would be for it to be more of a challenge. Even the most shit endgame (possibly even lategame) builds can bulldoze over him. I get that it's the introductory boss, but I feel like it definitely needs more of a challenging aspect to it.

    This is one of the more forgettable fights, as like you said it just drags on, as well as feeling a bit too obscure. Idk if it should stay or not, but eh.

    This however is honestly just a bad fight. A boss fight with a shapeshifter has so much potential and they blew it. Just like mummyboard, you can steamroll right over him even with shit builds, and also as it no longer has the thing it's based off of, this just feels even more out of place. Unless a revamped corpus accipientis boss fight comes back, there is no reason for this waste of a tier to be here.

    Alright and now onto the bosses you would suggest replace some LI bosses.
    There are 2 skiens, but I'll assume you're talking about the revenant as the General's fight is eh. Skien is one of the easiest boss fights ever, and is basically just a discount Matryoshka Idol. He is somewhat important to the lore, yes, but just because they're important and have a boss fight doesn't mean they necessarily deserve a spot in LI.
    Amadel atm is just a punching bag. He barely does enough damage to kill you. The first time I fought him had the biggest challenge of the fight being whether or not I would kill it before the server reboots.
    Bigfoot is indeed a boss fight. It is certainly one of the boss fights, but it is not one of the greatest boss fights imo.
    Quartron would definitely fit, the problem though would be how it's fight is just... nothing. You just kill 2 cores that even players with a skill issue at that level would just walk over (please help im running out of unique ways to say that).
    This is definitely one of the better boss fights. The only issue would be the lore, and for that idk maybe Dr. Legendary met her and she got triggered that he killed her favorite bug or whatever idrktbh.

    Here are some other ideas to replace the Corkus Accipientis as well as other guys:
    • Warden of Wisdom - Definitely a really great fight and is really the only part of RoL3 I think is universally considered to be the only good part. The main gimmick would be how killing clones would heal the real warden completely, though I'd think a problem with this could be the lore.
    • Arrai-Veretel - The ending boss fight of the orc war. This is one of the easier ones to justify story-wise. Maybe there could be ancient orcish spell stuff used in the fight, idrk.
    • Volatile Fleris - :warmfleris:. Also a pretty neat boss fight that's basically a better Corpus Accipientis (and also a bit of a better Sayleros' Brother), but maybe having a surprise 5th phase which is even stronger than the 1st would be a neat wake up call to the people thinking this would just be ctrl c ctrl v of the original fight.
    • Canary - This would honestly be a really neat surprise, you'd just appear in an arena with nothing there and then you wake up in a hallucination which is the Canary's fight but just more intense.
    • The Beast & The Unfettered - A great duo boss fight, one of them is a relentless attacker who becomes stronger while the other is a supporter turned nightmare of your existence. I've never fought them at level but I have at least done their boss fight at least once, which definitely was one of the better ones.
    • Vulcor Adrenophage - A great glass cannon fight, with the guy always being active and keeping you on your toes.
    Screw it while I'm at it might as well come up with some pun names:
    • Warden of Wisdom - Warden of Memory (computer memory, could also do warden of ram but that sounds lame)
    • Arrai-Veretel - i got nothing someone come up with a better name
    • Volatile Fleris - same thing with veretel
    • Canary - Corkary (it's lame yes but it's the best I could do)
    • The Beast & The Enslaved - The Bytes & The Encrypted (becomes the Undeleted & the Malware (do better ones please these names suck))
    • Vulcor Adrenophage - Vector Adrenophage
     
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  3. CashorCard

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    I will say more eventually but I am very sleepy, so sorry for the short reply, for boss ideas, I was just somewhat blanking on bosses at the moment, reading your post showed me a lot of great ideas, thank you
     
  4. DrGREEN

    DrGREEN Remove daily reset tokens

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    Does any one actually remember the non li version of matrojan idol?
     
  5. Elytry

    Elytry Spitballer of the Architects

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    I know I'm not replying to everything, but I am replying to all the stuff I disagree with or really agree with.
    Amadel rn is just pre-2.0 Solar Vanguard

    Wow that's a lot but they look cool.
    Also:
    Array-Veretel (Like arrays in coding,)
    Edit: Would both the unfettered and the unbound (or whatever they would be called) drop a token, so killing either one would end the fight? Or would killing both of them cause something to just automatically give you the token?

    Yeah, these could definitely get improved. I think there should be a way for non-dps players to do Virus Doctor, and Dr. Legendary (while I only made to his fight once) is lacking unique-ness.
    No. I just don't like this boss or non-mech Fake Death either. It just feels like your fighting 7 bosses at once and you can't focus and if you aren't a tank Death Metal kills you instantly.
    Okay, I don't agree with this because I personally need to get into the battle-flow and a low-stress, mid-power boss helps me with that. Also Mummyboard is classic and The Mummy was (and still is) the only low-level boss I really struggle with.
    Yeah, this could be replaced by something else. I feel like the boss as it is kind of just old Corpus fight but with minions and at endgame. It feels irritating to finally get the hang of his latest form, only for it to change. What I could see, is if he randomly swapped between phases every so often keeping the same percentage of health he had before. Rather than trying to speed through every phase like it is now, he could randomly (or maybe based on player-behavior) switch phases and keep his health percent. So, when you finally defeat one phase, it's all over. Now that would mean every phase of his would need more health. Or he could just be scrapped and be replaced by a better idea.
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    The Glitch and the Encrypted, becomes the Unflawed and the Unbound.
    Okay I tried.
     
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