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(Update after Fruma update suggestion)Tides of the Kasi Ocean

Discussion in 'General Suggestions' started by OatMilk, May 20, 2023.

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  1. OatMilk

    OatMilk Master condiment sachet thief VIP

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    The Kasi Ocean lies beyond Fruma resting beyond the mountains surrounding Wynn and Gavel. A land of mystery and dangers beyond even that of the Expanse. I will give a brief overview and if this gains traction maybe delve deeper.

    History:
    The Kasi ocean is a primordial force that lies beyond the influence of Light and Dark, it is a realm of pure energy and life. It is the elemental chaos that surrounds Wynn and Gavel Few humans or villagers live out here but the ones that do are some of the most powerful water mages ever. It is said that before the raising of the great mountains that surround Wynn, Gavel, Corkus and Fruma they were once and archipelago that rested in the center of the Kasi ocean. It is rumored that the mages who calmed the sea were powerful Mermen sorcerers that came from the Kasi ocean in the disguise of villagers.

    Lore:
    To make this clar the Kasi ocean surrounds our main plane of reality but the mountains almost act as a barrier preventing the residents of our current slice of life from reaching this plane of "Influence". I'm sorry if I didn't clarify but the Kasi ocean isn't really a plane of influence but more a plane of pure unbridled magic that prevents the actual planes of influence from doing anything to it. You could think of the planes of influence as sticks poking at a pillow (Wynn, the Ocean, Corkus and Gavel) as they in a sense are easily influenced by whatever goes on with Corruption, Light and Dark. You could think of the Kasi ocean as a woodchipper and whenever the planes of influence try to do anything with the Kasi ocean the powers they use to "influence" are made void in a sense, that is why both the light and dark have a lesser effect on the oceans of Wynn and Gavel.

    New Class:

    The Beast Master (Cosmetic Name, Summoner)
    Weapon: Whip
    Stats: Fast Moving, Low Damage, Avg Health, Good Spells
    Spells(Balancing yet to come):
    • 1 Call of the Wild (Rift), Summons a wolf to aid you in battle, health scales with your health, can summon different animals depending on archetype
    • 2: Evolve (Wild Shift), Temporarily buff your wolf to allow it to move faster hit harder and regen health, gives player temporary absorption
    • 3: Lycanthropy (Sacrifice), Absorbs wolf into you to allow more attack damage added health bonus equal to wolf's, higher jump, faster speed attack length and speed buffed for a short while
    • 4: Ride, (Beast Warp)Ride your wolf, higher jump and quite fast

    Raid:
    The All Seeing Leviathan
    The King of the Waves
    Rooms yet to come...


    Prob real unbalanced

    That's all for now!
     
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  2. ThePurpleEmerald

    ThePurpleEmerald Famous Adventurer

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    Okay, so, a few things

    First off, if this is a suggestion it should be in the General Suggestions section of the forums. But a mod is probably going to move it in the near future so other than that here goes:

    So, this ocean is apparently physically around the islands in the Physical Plane, yet considered to be its own Realm? Or is this implying that the Physical Plane was once part of whatever Realm the Kasi Ocean is?

    Is there at least an explanation as to why the Kasi Ocean's influence is at a higher rank, or at least arguably more dangerous than the forces of the Realms of Influence? And assuming the Kasi Ocean is on Earth (Or wherever Wynncraft's main map takes place), what hold is Orphion and Dern Beast able to grasp on it? Are they able to take over the ocean as well? If it is beyond the both of the beasts, is there anything the ocean has to offer to display this?

    The non-skinned name sort of breaks consistency with the other classes (Also I'm not sure how The Beast Master and Sea King are similar in theme to each other?), so unless that is intentional you might want to think of one that isn't like... that. (Madeline if you're reading this please at least lay it on them lightly)

    A whip is indeed interesting as a weapon, how does it function?

    "Fast Moving"? I assume there will be speed-related buffs similar to archer?

    Otherwise when you ever expand on this, I would also love to hear more about what you define as "good spells".

    Not much to say about the spells since you're still working on it (even if Call of the Wild seems very identical to Trapper's ability of similar name), but as an initial concept I do find the actual wolf-related abilities kind of interesting, with how unique they are. I'm intrigued to see what you can come up with.
     
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  3. shtnck eyh ckhhe

    shtnck eyh ckhhe Jesus of Nether-eth

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    I would totally play as a "Beast Master" in the "Wynncraft" "2.2 Kasi Ocean Update"

    ain't no way you called one of the spells "call of the wild" though that's wild
     
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    turtletop Well-Known Adventurer Builder

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    me omw to transfer whips from terraria to wynncraft
     
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  5. OatMilk

    OatMilk Master condiment sachet thief VIP

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    ain't no way you called one of the spells "call of the wild" though that's wild[/QUOTE]
    I was basing call of the wild off of trapper and i was thinking in the same route of shaman's totem summoning that you have to have used to use any other spell
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    I really need someone that is smart to help change up some of these ideas!
     
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    punscake Well-Known Adventurer VIP+

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    having your summon be rideable as a movement spell is a wonderful idea
     
  7. DrGREEN

    DrGREEN wynncraft.wiki.gg is where its AT CHAMPION

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    We need dern first I don’t think this fits much but we do need an ocean raid that would be sick

    cool animal themed class idea tho I’m not sure it seems as rpg style as the others
     
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  8. ThePurpleEmerald

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    Can you at least finish up the suggestion first
    I noticed the "To be cont'd" along with the other upcoming messages
     
  9. Deusphage

    Deusphage gruesome grue Modeler CHAMPION Builder

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    We dont take suggestions for whole map additions. That was a one time thing with Corkus.
    We don't take class suggestions
    There are only 3 Realms of Influence and we are leaving it as that for the forseeable fiuture. Additionally, Realms of Influence are part of a different plane of reality, not the Physical Plane.
    The Mages who calmed the sea are from Mage Island.

    No thanks
     
  10. TheLMiffy1111

    TheLMiffy1111 Previous Leader Of A Revived Wynn Community CHAMPION

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    oh no it's madeline deusphage wynncraft saying "we don't take" again

    regardless why does this suggestion contain a class
    just because shaman came out with lutho doesn't mean that all new areas should come with a new class
    we do need more ocean though
     
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  11. OatMilk

    OatMilk Master condiment sachet thief VIP

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    dw it was just an idea i was throwing out didnt at all think it would come to attention
     
  12. TrapinchO

    TrapinchO retired observer of the wiki VIP+ Featured Wynncraftian

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    First off, the idea of exploring the Larger Ocean is cool. More lore, more fun, Bloomi.

    On the other hand, your execution is quite lacking, both conceptually and in content (the latter is fine if it is a draft).

    Let's take a closer look:
    You say that the area is a "A realm of pure energy and life". This implies that it is a Realm of Influence. It would be really interesting to see how a third (let's ignore Corruption or a second) Force would fit into the system.

    But then you talk about how it braces the whole "playable area" (for the lack of a better term), which makes it clearly a Physical Realm. There is a ton of potential for basically completely unrelated events and cultures, but also exploration of the effect of the War on other areas.

    You are mixing two ideas together. Choose one (preferably the latter) and focus on that.

    Also afaik the Oceam was calmed by villagers, not humans.

    And what is your idea of a perfect suggestion then? Most of us know this, but you don't have to crush potentially good ideas just because "it is pointless". If nothing else, it can be cool.

    Also raids were never going to be added. Housing was never going to be added. Summoner. Item/Emerald pouches. Well, what did we get?
     
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  13. Deusphage

    Deusphage gruesome grue Modeler CHAMPION Builder

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    I don't think there is a perfect suggestion, but following the suggestion guidelines, for one, would be a good start.

    Raids were planned for Gavel initially. Housing and Emerald Pouches were just good ideas.
     
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  14. Dr Zed

    Dr Zed Famous Adventurer HERO

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    It’s still jarring to hear housing being praised as an idea nowadays when it was bashed so often on the forums lol. Part of it was just most threads being low quality, but it’s still a bit ironic to me nonetheless.
     
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    TrapinchO retired observer of the wiki VIP+ Featured Wynncraftian

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    I don't see where the guidelines say "Don't suggest x, we won't implement it anyways."

    However, I saw a part where they say to give constructive feedback on improving the suggestion.
     
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  16. Deusphage

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    Is it possible? (ask yourself if what you are suggesting is actually possible in Wynncraft and can be done)
    Does it fit? (does your idea actually fit in Wynncraft? If you want guns added then most likely not)
     
  17. TrapinchO

    TrapinchO retired observer of the wiki VIP+ Featured Wynncraftian

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    yes
    Fruma and Corkus prove it

    Kinda, but it is a mess which can be sorted out.
     
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  18. Deusphage

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    So you think it's possible for us to add a map expansion between Fruma and Dern without delaying Dern like 3 years. Especially one that we have had no intention of adding and no lore for, nor buildup.
     
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    TrapinchO retired observer of the wiki VIP+ Featured Wynncraftian

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    Did they say to do it before Dern?
     
  20. turtletop

    turtletop Well-Known Adventurer Builder

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    can you guys shut up
     
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