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Game Mechanics level adaptive content

Discussion in 'General Suggestions' started by ReachDaBeach24, Dec 15, 2022.

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  1. ReachDaBeach24

    ReachDaBeach24 Old dog with some new tricks VIP

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    Imagine if you went back to the Infested Pit at end game level and found Qira and the drones waiting for you.

    Not sure how much more detail is needed with that as an example. I know there is a little adaptation in AHC when some new more powerful mobs are wandering around near Olux, so it seems likely the code is somewhat flexible about doing this.
     
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    TinyCookieJar Well-Known Adventurer

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    The AHC part of Olux is actually a separate area from the actual Olux which only exists as part of the quest
     
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  3. ReachDaBeach24

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    I didn't even consider that possibility. It's more obvious when you go into the cities, like when Detlas suddenly has a boss arena. But I thought something like the tree and bank entry in Almuj might just be a tweak. I didn't look at actual locations or maps, but everything having a portal at some point should have been a clue.
     
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    Aya Very Serious Gensokyo Journalist

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    The Forgery when
     
  5. TinyCookieJar

    TinyCookieJar Well-Known Adventurer

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    Also spawning a higher level mob in a lower level area would mean it would destroy any low level players that are around
     
  6. ReachDaBeach24

    ReachDaBeach24 Old dog with some new tricks VIP

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    Maybe just in boss rooms, then. Other players, not in a party, aren't fighting the same mobs. It isn't unusual to come into a boss room and see another player in the heat of battle with mobs I can't see.
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    It was just an example to make it easier to understand, but the corrupted dungeons have the same issues. At higher levels, it is dead simple to waltz through boss rooms.
    Even using the specific example, cip is nowhere near as difficult as the hive.
     
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  7. nomythrilskin?

    nomythrilskin? HHG broke my kneecaps

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    I mean, that's kind of why there's new content (dungeons, raids, etc) every ~10 levels
     
  8. ReachDaBeach24

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    until you get to end game, which is specifically what this post is about. It would be nice to be able to go back and do things when you are no longer getting new content and have those existing things level up wih different mobs and bosses.
     
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    nomythrilskin? HHG broke my kneecaps

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    EO and tNA.
    Besides, they're working on Fruma (which may take a while, but will add new engame content)
     
  10. ReachDaBeach24

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    again, kind of my point. just 2 things. only get the quests once and the boss fights in AHC were okay but not really end game challenges. it just seems like it would be easier than other alternatives like entirely new content. each player or party gets their own mobs/bosses in dungeons and boss rooms. Seems like they could spawn different ones, if the AI is good enough top adapt to room layout.
     
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    Corrupted dungeon bosses scale to levels
     
  12. ReachDaBeach24

    ReachDaBeach24 Old dog with some new tricks VIP

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    are you sure? I did a couple of runs through cur the other day to get the flashfire stuff and I didn't waltz through, but I was never in much danger.

    Battle monk with Infidel; no mythics.
     
  13. Melkor

    Melkor The dark enemy of the world

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    That's because they're on different servers. This would remove the ability to play with friends in a different level range, which destroys the multiplayer aspect of most of the game.
     
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    inigbamL Well-Known Adventurer

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    That's mainly because Slykaar doesn't scale that much with levels (only being able to scale once) As CURs recommended level is 94 so there isn't too much point for him to scale, if you fought Witherhead instead she'd have way better stats compared to if you fought her at level 70 for instance.
     
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    In a party, any scaling up could take into account lowest level, so it wouldn't remove it, only enhance it. Other than being in a party, I have never been in a boss or mini boss room where other players were fighting the same mobs as me.
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    another one I did semi-recently that was borderline boring. I do notice that the corrupted variants seem to take more damage and aren't killed as quickly. the primary build i have used a lot recently has a lot of hpr; maybe they are doing more damage than I realize, just not all at once. i should go back in the sewer with my recent variant with more mr and less hpr.
     
  16. ThedumbOX

    ThedumbOX I swear I’m straight HERO

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    This is just false?


    Edit: I’m wrong, however the scaling is super weak imo I still trash on the lower level corrupted dungeons
     
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    The one place I feel this could work out is Roots of Corruption, however, anywhere else it adds this sense that you haven't gotten stronger. There's something very cathartic about being able to go back to Wynn Plains after reaching Nesaak and being able to eliminate everything with ease that once gave you problems, and having scaling content there would just make it feel like you haven't made progress
     
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