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Archer/Hunter potential lv 85

Discussion in 'Class Builds' started by ReachDaBeach24, Oct 18, 2022.

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  1. ReachDaBeach24

    ReachDaBeach24 Old dog with some new tricks VIP

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    There is an interesting twist to this one. Using optimal rolls, wb is way off the mark on health regen. There is a penalty for going over 100% and that's getting 0% instead (pretty harsh). If all were optimal rolls, the total would be 122%. The actual total is 79%, so it should have very good health regen. Spell damage is likely closer to being correct as biggest boosts are from decently high percentages of optimal.

    https://hppeng-wynn.github.io/build...L10000M1005hM1000ES10002410000Mzz++++--hzPlEL
    WynnBuilder build:
    > Fenmask
    > Adamantite
    > Post-Ultima
    > Passus Lux
    > Photon
    > Marvel
    > Call to Concord
    > Ensa's Faith
    > Torrential Tide [f4]
     
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  2. Monkey_Suit

    Monkey_Suit Well-Known Adventurer

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    There is no raw health regen in that build, making the health regen % completely useless. You need some base raw hpr for the hpr% to take effect.
     
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    dogwqter Well-Known Adventurer

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    please put a water powder on ttide
    please
    ur like murdering my favorite bow in the game
    also yeah as the person said above, 0 raw hpr basically invalidates any amount of hpr%
    also since ttide basically only does water damage, you should put w4 powders on armor instead of f4 powders
     
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  4. YYGAYMER

    YYGAYMER reeeee FW FW Media HIC Master Featured Wynncraftian

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    Excluding the matter of regen %, I really wonder what this build is meant to be..
    Like item choices are very random, and not really supporting the water bow?
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    Here's regen based torrential tide
    https://hppeng-wynn.github.io/build...07S0ZN0qB0j0P1G160P1L000010000Izz++++--hzPlEL
    WynnBuilder build:
    > Kaerynn's Mind
    > Kaerynn's Body
    > Ringlets
    > Boots of Blue Stone
    > Photon
    > Draoi Fair
    > Call to Concord
    > Ensa's Faith
    > Torrential Tide [w6]
     
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  5. ReachDaBeach24

    ReachDaBeach24 Old dog with some new tricks VIP

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    I was a bit lazy about accepting powders from prior builds. I thought there was inherent hp regen unless your build killed it. Choices are not so much random as much as trying to piece together what I have, collecting with an eye towards health and mana regen with as much power as I can. I guess it was dumb luck that I had some raw regen in there. I really don't know a lot of the fundamentals as well as I should by now. I am currently at lv 80.

    Build above definitely points out that my "use legendary whenever possible" mentality is failing me at this point.

    I just popped out and looked and it is my geyser leggings currently giving me raw health regen to work with.
     
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  6. RenZenthio

    RenZenthio Murder the gods and topple their thrones! HERO

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    You do have inherent regen, though it's honestly not much (You need either massive ehp, or massive skill for it to be sufficient). Natural hpr gets higher the lower your current %hp, and I think the higher your mana, weirdly (though idr, it might be the lower your mana)


    Also, highly recommend this thread for getting leveling builds: https://forums.wynncraft.com/threads/meta-gear-for-leveling.275840/

    Slapped this together (put extra AP into bouncing bomb). Can also go boltslinger with this. Idk if it's an improvement on YY's build, it's literally just a slap form the thread
    https://hppeng-wynn.github.io/build...TN0og0qB0D0i1T0i1L1L000010000Izz++++-tdh+7MXY
    WynnBuilder build:
    > Blue Mask
    > Seagazer
    > Dark Shroud
    > Ensa's Ideals
    > Photon
    > Detective's Ring
    > Dragon's Eye Bracelet
    > Tenuto
    > Torrential Tide [w6]


    P.S.
    Feel free to ask me, or make more posts asking about Wynn mechanics. We always need more class builders. If you want I can also give you Atlas Inc's (a class building guild) discord link in a DM.
     
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  7. ReachDaBeach24

    ReachDaBeach24 Old dog with some new tricks VIP

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    Wow - those are great boots. I love the Passus Lux because I really do take stupid shortcuts, jumping off cliffs or whatnot.

    Throwing that in with previously suggested Kaerynn's Mind and Body and swapping around other items to fit points and get attributes I want, I came up with this:

    https://hppeng-wynn.github.io/build...L1000BM10005A1000ES10002410000Hzz++++--hzPlEL
    WynnBuilder build:
    > Kaerynn's Mind
    > Kaerynn's Body
    > Post-Ultima
    > Ensa's Ideals
    > Photon
    > Marvel
    > Kelight's Gauntlet
    > Ensa's Faith
    > Torrential Tide [w5]

    I like the numbers on hp, ehp, health regen, mana regen and it has a lot of power. Walk speed at "only" 20% is on the low side for how I often play, but I do have windy/stormy feet, sprint and a stockpile of potions. I never really used agility potions as it was like giving espresso to a squirrel with my current and most prior builds.
     
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    YYGAYMER reeeee FW FW Media HIC Master Featured Wynncraftian

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    hmm you still kept post-ultima.. guess you really want to keep that melee damage or something? whatever

    Feel free to use T6 powders, as they're very cheap unlike 1.20. And.. I think you don't need to put powders on armor like that. Unless you're caring about element defenses, those are doing nothing to your damage because your bow is water. So if you're willing to put powders on armor, put water instead.
     
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    please also consider using a level 82 legendary leggings called Dark Shroud, although you'll be dealing slightly less damage it's totally worth it for the 15 dexterity and 35 agility it gives.
     
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    ReachDaBeach24 Old dog with some new tricks VIP

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    Yes, I do like power and I admit that is overkill for most situations. I would trade off to go lower to get more ehp. My playstyle doesn't hold up well in boss rooms and against stronger mobs unless I have a fair amount. While I probably won't be able to resist tweaking here and there, I am trying to put something together around Torrential Tide that will last several levels.

    I am not really well schooled in all the elemental aspects. I oversimplify and try to turn the red numbers green or as least lower the deficit.

    That is exactly the kind of tradeoff I was referring to. Still lots of power but a big boost on ehp with great regen and that walk speed I like so much. I had done a quick sear after an earlier mention of them and the better rolls were more than I wanted to pay, and it builds that didn't have all that didn't have the really high power before working it in, I didn't like the drop. But I took another peek and found a good pair for a more reasonable price. Thanks!

    https://hppeng-wynn.github.io/build...L1000BM10005A1000ES10002410000Hzz++++--hzPlEL
    WynnBuilder build:
    > Kaerynn's Mind
    > Kaerynn's Body
    > Dark Shroud
    > Ensa's Ideals
    > Photon
    > Marvel
    > Kelight's Gauntlet
    > Ensa's Faith
    > Torrential Tide [w5]
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    another note about the extreme power. because wb is using optimal rolls and the reality is that while I look for good rolls, they are never perfect. I am not really going to get those numbers.
     
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    Jackkoh Grass of the Realm VIP+

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    Also you could try to get an Agility-based build because the dark shroud gives that much agility that you can literally just equip most air equipment
     
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    dogwqter Well-Known Adventurer

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    for some odd reason all the items that I like a lot are from a ttide build that I used
    dshroud :hearteyes:
    ttide :hearteyes:
    ensa's ideals:hearteyes:
    seagazer :hearteyes:
     
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    Earthbrine The Dirt of the Realm

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    https://hppeng-wynn.github.io/build...L1001lU1000FU1000FU1000FU1007lUzz++++--NxpUTg
    WynnBuilder build:
    > Stad Aer
    > Toy Maker
    > Dark Shroud
    > Canyon Strider
    > Breezehands
    > Field
    > Jiandan Handwraps
    > Royal Blazing Amulet
    > Prowl [a6a6a6]

    Here's a build you could use at level 85. It needs an air hive completion, and wynnex 4, but can be really good.
     
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    ReachDaBeach24 Old dog with some new tricks VIP

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    That's a super slow bow and no health regen, which doesn't look like it would fit my play style very well. Besides, I got my ass handed to me in the first room of the thunder hive and on the ancient city road leading to the boss room in wynnex 4. That may, and should, change but it may be past lv 85 when I have the Torrential Tide.
     
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    Earthbrine The Dirt of the Realm

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    Ummm...I was trying to improve the build I made based off of your feedback, and this popped out:
    https://hppeng-wynn.github.io/build...f0g0e001a1L01000FU1000FU01007lUzz++++--NxpUTg
    WynnBuilder build:
    > Skull Bandanna
    > Toy Maker
    > Leggings of Haste
    > Scale of Seiryu
    > Old Keeper's Ring
    > Precious
    > Siwel's Guilt
    > Derecho
    > Prowl [a6a6a6]

    It has bad EHP, bad damage, but has extremely good sustain when farming because of the +Greed major ID.
     
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    Which bow?
    Kind of tweaky and not a big difference either way. Or is it? Does that raw get added in before the other multipliers? The difference of 210 raw damage is less than 4% of any spell, even escape, so 4% less negative impact on main might be better. It's a water based bow, but is that 1% water damage difference really going to make any difference? Then there is the thunder and exploding...

    Pretty even, almost coin toss, to me. Or am I missing something?

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    RenZenthio Murder the gods and topple their thrones! HERO

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    Id go the 333 raw bow, that adds up
     
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    dogwqter Well-Known Adventurer

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    why are those both cursed
    the main stats are raw spell and water dam%
    and I guess firedam% would be a sub-stat
    honestly I would just buy one with better stats
    but if you wanted you should defo use the second one
     
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    ReachDaBeach24 Old dog with some new tricks VIP

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    Better ones are typically beyond my budget. this is my first time through and I don't have a big war chest. I have about 100,000 total right now. But I will keep checking it and keep looking in chests. I just looked in the market. None are any better and prices range from not much (around 2k) to 80k.
     
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    dogwqter Well-Known Adventurer

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    i can give you one if you want
     
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