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Game Design Remove Orphion crystallization doing true damage when single player left

Discussion in 'Feedback' started by YYGAYMER, Oct 9, 2022.

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  1. YYGAYMER

    YYGAYMER reeeee FW FW HIC Master HERO Featured Wynncraftian

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    I know raid are meant to be played together but.. what is this e
    If you're the only player left in Orphion bossfight and you get Crystallization, you get about 90% health true damage. This didn't exist but suddenly appeared on this patch??

    I really don't know point of this please remove reee
     
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  2. Lex!

    Lex! :] CT Manager QA GM CMD CHAMPION

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    this has been around for a while. it was added so that crystalization wasn't an instant fail of the raid when you're solo, but still has some weight to it
     
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    NotAFish An evolved jungle slime Discord Moderator CHAMPION

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    The alternative to this was that becoming crystallised when solo meant you turned into the usual pinata but with no one to break you out. So it was certain death. This is a good change, sure 90% true dmg is rather high, but it's not certain death!
     
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    lemonalade [insert misinformation here] CHAMPION

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    While we're at it, can NoL get some balance changes...
     
  5. SkiesUnknown

    SkiesUnknown skie HERO

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    NoL as a whole just needs.... a lot of rebalancing for the boss fight, because as it stands it's undoubtedly the hardest content in 2.0 and not in a good way.
     
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    runsoccer Snail Mage Enthusiast

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    Even outside the bossfight. Theres no reason the mobs in the challenge rooms like the cloud enemies in phase 1 cloud room, multicolored floating things phase 1 tower room and all the enemies in both phase 2 (exception to the token room) and phase 3 (minus the clouds in the overseer room and the "minibosses" in the tower) should be dealing more damage to a light bender tank compared to 90% of greg's attacks... As a level 79 unlock raid.

    Sure 2.0 allows people to do more damage and dispatch the enemies more quickly but thats rather difficult to focus on if you are being bombarded by rapid fire projectiles dealing 30% of you hp per hit. Even if its buffed this way to account for the more powerful raid buffs even with high ehp due to said buffs most enemies still hit like a semi being launched from a cannon.

    As for the crystals the topic specific for this thread... while i'm personally fine with the 90% damage compared to it actually being possible to not just end the raid due to solo crystal I must ask whats with wynn's obsession with taking away 90+% of your hp? Its kinda weird... Panic zealot with its 99% orphion crystal with 90%... why not like 75% or mid 80s... still rather lethal but at least you could not be 1 shot away from anything in most cases and recover. Zealot is fine cause thats its own schtick and is balanced for it in mind. But those gold headed mobs in that boss room ain't built around people being at 10% hp.
     
  7. Deusphage

    Deusphage gruesome grue Modeler CHAMPION Builder

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    Hasn't this been a thing since 1.20.4
     
  8. YYGAYMER

    YYGAYMER reeeee FW FW HIC Master HERO Featured Wynncraftian

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    Crystallization didn't do anything for single player in 1.20.4 (no true damage either)
     
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    shacers no longer replying VIP+

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    guys why is this guy stronger than tna. pls help by reducing his health by like 50% and while were at it buff the parasite by like 28375 percent dmg because its weak af
     
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  10. YYGAYMER

    YYGAYMER reeeee FW FW HIC Master HERO Featured Wynncraftian

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    Lore reason
    Orphion is light beast
    Meanwhile The Nameless Anaomaly is... random dark creature. Not the same level
     
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    but he wasnt strong enough to resist some weakling parasite...
    oh wait his wisdom saving throw made a 5
     
  12. lemonalade

    lemonalade [insert misinformation here] CHAMPION

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    I'm cool with NoL being harder for lore reasons but can we not make it a level 80 raid and give him the capability to one shot you the second he touches you
     
  13. TheEpicCajun

    TheEpicCajun bee HERO

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    Also for lore reasons Orphion was being mindjacked by a dark parasite, so it would be common sense for us to be fighting him at diminished power. This can easily be a reason for this raid to be in the 80s, and also why Orphion is “weaker” than Greg. (Maybe if devs ever add a Mythic/Savage difficulty for raids then we fight Orphion at full power and then they can go nuts with their love for oneshot mechanics)
     
  14. That_Chudley

    That_Chudley Wynncraft Addict HERO

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    Personally, I think if NoL needs to stand a chance at ever being fun or bug-free, it needs to be completely remade. Like, razed to the ground at totally redone. It's been a buggy, unbalanced, unfair, unfun mess of a raid since day 1.

    I honestly assume that it's just a joke to the CT at this point and no one wants to touch it.

    Seriously, this raid is an abomination is so many ways. Please fix it.
     
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    actuslly very true, someone make it 33% easier at the least, at most even halve its power
     
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    starx280 The boy who cried lunar VIP

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    I think aside from crystallization NoL as a whole is.. fun

    But yeah the heavy true damage stuff can be annoying
     
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    meef Well-Known Adventurer

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    I know people who only run nol on boltslinger cus then the angles break them out lol
     
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