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Game Mechanics Master Hive Weapon Diversity

Discussion in 'General Suggestions' started by Sombian, Jun 9, 2022.

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More diversity?

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  1. Sombian

    Sombian Well-Known Adventurer

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    The quest [The Qira Hive] introduced powerful pre-identified items since Gavel update.
    Back then one could equip all four Master Hive armours as they dont had any restrictions.
    As time went by, game is more polished, and Master Hive armours changed a lot,
    eventually turned into what we know today, all of which specialized in many different builds (spellspam, tierstack, heavy melee, etc) but Master Hive weapons.

    Currently Master Hive weapons are severely outshined by many different options that arent even mythic,
    requires expensive powders in order to make them work, and are all specialized in spell.

    My idea is add spell, hybrid, and melee specialized varient to each classes, and make them more stronger.

    e.g. [Pristine (spell)/Chaotic (hybrid)/Umbral (melee)] Hive [Bow/Wand/Spear/Dagger/Relik]

    I want them to actually live up for its challenge just like other Master Hive armours / accessories.
     
    Last edited: Jun 22, 2022
  2. Sombian

    Sombian Well-Known Adventurer

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  3. strikeflame5356

    strikeflame5356 what do I write here VIP

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    I mean the spear is pretty much one of the only decent spells spears for the endgame, pls add a yes/no poll so people can vote on this.
     
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  4. Sombian

    Sombian Well-Known Adventurer

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    I may be wrong on hive weapons being underwhelming compare to other master hive items but its subject to change, and whats important is diversity, really.
     
  5. Sombian

    Sombian Well-Known Adventurer

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  6. TheNelston

    TheNelston only ironically afk in the head HERO

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    honestly that says more about the state of other endgame spell spears than it does about how strong hive weapons are
     
  7. Sombian

    Sombian Well-Known Adventurer

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  8. AmbassadorDazz

    AmbassadorDazz Discord Killjoy Staff Member Moderator HERO

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    Infused Hive weapons are jack of all trades/master of none weapons that can be built in any way you want (for when you don't have any better weapons), with generic and over-standard base stats that have no tradeoffs (besides powdering costs). Sure, they feel a bit inflexible at times for building, especially for melee-centric builds, but as weapons in general, they do what they do fairly well, and goes well with a good chunk of builds thanks to this generic nature.
     
  9. Sombian

    Sombian Well-Known Adventurer

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    No one really uses them often due to how expensive powder working is, and in most case scenarios other items do better which is really unfortunate.
    If one can't buy better (non-mythic) weapon because desired item is too expensive, one can't powder hive weapon either.
    At its current state, they don't excels at anything, but a filler item like oranate set.

    Plus most builds focus on one or two things not generic all-arounds...
    Sure, they are no where close to be 'unusable' but certainly underwhelming.
     
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  10. Aftershokke

    Aftershokke Meow?

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    *sobs*
    its okay Hive infused Dagger with all slots T6, dont cry its gonna be okay
     
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  11. Sombian

    Sombian Well-Known Adventurer

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    I'd rather use Black, its cheaper, and can use master hive armours / accessories.
     
  12. Aftershokke

    Aftershokke Meow?

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    whoa so black is better, too bad i have no money to put powders again
     
  13. TheNelston

    TheNelston only ironically afk in the head HERO

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    i think theres a good point to be made- whenever an item is "generic" (eg morph, ornate, hive weapons, etc.), it almost always tends to wind up favoring spell-heavy builds instead of melee
     
  14. Sombian

    Sombian Well-Known Adventurer

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    I don't understand why you behave like that... triggered cause I said Black is superior? childish...
     
  15. Aftershokke

    Aftershokke Meow?

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    Im not triggered, i just have no money to put t6 thunder powder or whatever it is on there. you made it look worse than it seemed
     
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  16. Sombian

    Sombian Well-Known Adventurer

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  17. Sombian

    Sombian Well-Known Adventurer

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  18. Sombian

    Sombian Well-Known Adventurer

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  19. bumpjoinICo

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    i like this suggestion. I feel like it should really get a dps and buff to its melee. Maybe set all the weapons to a super fast attack speed, so in spells there is no difference but in melee it allows for cancelstack/rawstack
     
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    Sombian Well-Known Adventurer

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