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Warrior/Knight Collapse tstack build?

Discussion in 'Class Builds' started by SoulyHere, Mar 3, 2022.

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  1. SoulyHere

    SoulyHere She/Her

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    Requirements
    1. No other mythic
    2.No crafted
    3. Have scarlet veil
    4. Every negative element defense smaller than 300
    No sustain is ok but rots is preferred
    Ty
     
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    scootingscooter Skilled Adventurer HERO

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  3. reithal_yeet

    reithal_yeet I make builds, both good and bad

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    Here, this can use roots and if you want more damage then assign more skillpoints into strength or dexterity
    https://wynnbuilder.github.io/#4_0u30ZS0kT0VN0Jf0Xr0K40OH0QT1k0+0Z1m0y1g00001006CO
    WynnBuilder build:
    > Scarlet Veil
    > Tisaun's Valor
    > Second Wind
    > Nether's Scar
    > Breezehands
    > Prism
    > Prowess
    > Diamond Fusion Necklace
    > Collapse [f6f6f6]
     
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  4. DeltaWave

    DeltaWave I miss cancelstack VIP

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    Use horizon for better defs but lower ehp
    And str should be at 125 holding collapse to use rots (80 rots req + 45 from collapse)
     
  5. reithal_yeet

    reithal_yeet I make builds, both good and bad

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    oh i forgot collapse gave so much strength lol
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    Updated build based on @DeltaWave ‘s comment
    https://wynnbuilder.github.io/#4_0u30ZS0LM0VN0Jf0Xr0K40OH0QT1z130Z1S0t1g00001006C6
    WynnBuilder build:
    > Scarlet Veil
    > Tisaun's Valor
    > Horizon
    > Nether's Scar
    > Breezehands
    > Prism
    > Prowess
    > Diamond Fusion Necklace
    > Collapse [e6f6f6]
     
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  6. DeltaWave

    DeltaWave I miss cancelstack VIP

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    but you can use second wind tho, its gud
    the only problem are the -defs
     
  7. Justice

    Justice Obliterator of Grooks VIP+

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    Well, everybody has about suggested what I would have said so oh well, lol, but I do have a comment on using RotS as a hp sustain.

    I mained this build on my warrior for a good while but I got tired of having to use Charge to heal. If you use RotS, it'll use up your mana fast after about 3 charges and I wasn't able to solo LI with it though you could argue that could just be how I play the game. As for other options to use as an hp sustain, life steal's out of the question, it's a tierstack build after all, so that would leave hpr which I think might have better potential over RotS. I'm currently using this build mixed with Undying as a replacement for RotS and it does do pretty well going against the eyeball monsters in a mob totem outside of Lutho. This does depend on if you can reasonably dodge attacks okay so the hpr can recover hp decently. Only problem with using hpr is that if you want a good hpr tierstack build, your best bet is Boreal which is a mythic. I have yet to test out Boreal in a tierstack so I can't say for certain how good it is but I think it has potential. I did try making a build that used Infernal Impulse but the problem with using that is that the ehp and damage become pretty bad and isn't worth it for Rally. Another wacky idea I thought up was using Phage Pins in a tierstack Collapse with RotS as a hp sustain. The idea behind it is pretty simple as you would get a reduced Charge cost from Phage pins down to 1 and you would get extra mr from Phage Pins to do more healing Charges. I'll post that down as another idea for you but do take it with a grain of salt as I have no idea on how well it would work. It does require a crafted ring though and a bunch of T6 powders to counteract the bad thunder def.

    https://wynnbuilder.github.io/#4_0u...K40OH0QT1z0t0Z1G0y1g010000C10036C10036C1006CO
    WynnBuilder build:
    > Scarlet Veil
    > Tisaun's Valor
    > Second Wind
    > Phage Pins
    > Breezehands
    > CR-1619k7JAc7J7J9m91
    > Prowess
    > Diamond Fusion Necklace
    > Collapse [f6f6f6]
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    One more thing to note, if it is still happening, 1.21 will nerf the self heal on RotS and Infernal Impulse to lower levels so keep that in mind.
     
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    DeltaWave I miss cancelstack VIP

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    i agree with you, using rots as hp sustain is not that good in those builds (i also couldnt solo li), but its the easiest hp sustain you can have
    that phage pins one should work a bit better i guess
    also tried building with infernal impulse and it didnt came out good
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    https://wynnbuilder.github.io/#4_0u30ZS0LM0720Jf0OQ0K40OH0QT1k0t0Z1d0t1g010000I1006CO01006CO
    WynnBuilder build:
    > Scarlet Veil
    > Tisaun's Valor
    > Horizon
    > Burnout
    > Breezehands
    > Diamond Solar Ring
    > Prowess
    > Diamond Fusion Necklace
    > Collapse [f6f6f6]
    really forcing with tomes you can get around 900hpr in this one
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    boreal works well
    https://wynnbuilder.github.io/#4_0u30ZS0kT0QN0Jf0Fx0K40uH0QT1l0t0Z1B111g010000C10036C10036C1006CO
    WynnBuilder build:
    > Scarlet Veil
    > Tisaun's Valor
    > Second Wind
    > Boreal
    > Breezehands
    > Facile
    > Prowess
    > Recalcitrance
    > Collapse [f6f6f6]
     
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    Justice Obliterator of Grooks VIP+

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    That's the one I'm going to test Boreal out with but you could using Prism over Facile maybe as it would only require one tome then. Facile would be great for having slightly more damage and hpr so I think either is acceptable.
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    To add to this more, as of this post on the Item Team thread from September under the spoiler "Upcoming Changes", the self heal on Rally will go from 10% down to 7%.
     
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    Hmm presonaly i dont think rally deserved a nerf. Its already pretty weak tbh.
     
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    Androphonia SON ARE YOU THROWING THE RAID AGAIN VIP

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  12. Justice

    Justice Obliterator of Grooks VIP+

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    Well the Item Team thinks otherwise I guess...

    That is an option though the person suggesting builds doesn't want crafted items. I'd still have the unrequested here in case they change their mind of course

    As a replacement for that that has no crafted items, here's this. Yeah, it's not as good but it's at least okay. You have to replace Horizon with Second Wind or else you will have an ehp and hp of paper mache.

    https://wynnbuilder.github.io/#4_0u30ZS0kT0VN0W70UF0K40uH0QT1l0+0Z1D0y1g00001006C6
    WynnBuilder build:
    > Scarlet Veil
    > Tisaun's Valor
    > Second Wind
    > Nether's Scar
    > Old Keeper's Ring
    > Ring of Rubies
    > Prowess
    > Recalcitrance
    > Collapse [e6f6f6]
     
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    hmm wuts the receipe of the ring? i want to have max dura for the receipe
     
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