Info Item Team Thread - Item/ingredient/major Id Changes, Updates & More

gotta break the bank on a perfect 3rd cost slayer now

 

yall sleeping on moontower BUFF

 

just fyi everything in a reply is in italics so you technically can't actually tell

 

The Guardian nerf is like Christmas, but more enjoyable.

 

how is it a buff? my current stance is currently similar to druser's, i'd like to hear some other opinions

 

It isnt even a buff its like they took the item and changed a few stats to say they changed the item it still looks completely irrelevant to me

 

it's not obviously irrelevant. most mythics don't like it because they either crash sp or still can't afford 70/80 reqs outside their element, but maybe this works with some legendaries? idk

 

I cant even think of a single situation in whcih i would need to use moontower
iirc there arent even any items with 150 agi req, and really your build will likely feature a lot of sp from the rest of your items anyways, so in effect youre wasting a slot that could be used for a really good boots or even a better mythic boots
I mean its good for what it does, the problem is that what it does isnt good

 

not all builds are going to be rife with sp.

disso, for example, appreciates it a lot:
WynnBuilder build:
> Dissociation
> Powder Snow
> Efteling
> Moontower
> Intensity
> Moon Pool Circlet
> Vortex Bracer
> Diamond Hydro Necklace
> Morrowind [a6w6w6]

to be fair, this claim isn't great since 1. this build isn't that strong, 2. the mt change is a direct nerf to this build. but while i agree that moontower isn't good, i don't like your reasoning.

 

Rip 15 agi points on gma, deserved tbh

 

how did ya'll manage to turn inferno into an even worse version of flameshot hilt

 

ok nvm it's actually a good buff ty very cool

 

Thoughts on the new mythics and fableds:

• Convergence looks pretty strong to me. Base damage is on the lower side, but instant 1 cost uppers is whew (slap Draoi for easy 2/1 costs)
• Queztalcoatl would have been a really interesting item on any class not named Mage. Considering its terrible base damage and bad defensive capabilities, it looks like a trash tier unusable item.
• Epoch is probably balanced in theory, with weak damage for a mythic but great supporting stats.
• Oblivion is cursed. It's the embodiment of IMs having to design items around Wynncraft's bug-ridden mechanics.
• Immolation looks pretty cool. I'd need to build-test to see how viable it is though, since it's the type of design that really walks the razor's edge between overpowered and unusable.
• Narcissist is just boring...
• One would assume Inhibitor has something we don't know about yet.

 

correction: base damage on convergence isn't even that low actually (above idol). this thing is nuts
agree on quetzl
epoch looks cronked with slayer cost support
oblivion is hilarious
agree on the rest, although narcissist was shown to have some majid

 

this is what i wrote in our chat yesterday about loading the new mythics into the game... yes very funny

Quetzalcoatl should have VERY_FAST attack speed... whoops

 

NEW MYTHICS

WHAT

WHY

 

Ahhhhh damn you guys I think y'all are gonna get me hooked on wynn again with these new mythics
Anyways dicking around with them in wynnbuilder I think the following.

Convergence is super epic. covers elemental combos that guardian, and idol didn't really fit before (mainly ewf)

Quetzalcoatl better have a major id cause LIFE STEAL OVER HEALS ON MAGE is not "quirky and special" but just fucking stupid and no one uses it. That said if it has some major that does something like make heal an offensive spell...then hell yeah

Epoch Looks like it's gonna be a super powerful eta bow or something along those lines. Typing on archer def looks weird and I wouldn't expect it to see tons of spell usage but idk

Immolation I don't have the sanity to build test. However I doubt it's balanced. Like Druser said it's one of those items that's gonna be godly or terrible.

Oh yeah and Oblivion looks like a tool to push the maximum melee dps output even further beyond.

 

Convergence:

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Item Hash:
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Item Link:
https://hppeng-wynn.github.io/custo...10Du130200H18140200H1817010Bk1E0230q1X1K010Du

Quetzalcoatl:

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Item Hash:
CI-10000CQuetzalcoatl025040104057090525-450C0545-750E0550-700F50M0201d0N20O020160S020160X010K0m0206hSw0t0108a0w023OOD80-0200s3h110231e0u1L01013

Item Link:
https://hppeng-wynn.github.io/custo...6hSw0t0108a0w023OOD80-0200s3h110231e0u1L01013

Epoch:

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Item Hash:
CI-100005Epoch0250401030590907500-6200C07520-6000D07480-6400F00M0201c0N30P020160S020160k0106Q0m0203uGn0n013110t013QE0-0203dFe1B013111H013111J0200L1R

Item Link:
https://hppeng-wynn.github.io/custo...n013110t013QE0-0203dFe1B013111H013111J0200L1R

Immolation:

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Item Hash:
CI-10000AImmolation02504010305B0A07200-4400C07310-3300F20M0201b0N40R0201G0S0201G0W010o0X010o0i0233g1+0w023ttU510010Ex11023KKAy12010Ex1E013GU

Item Link:
https://hppeng-wynn.github.io/custo...233g1+0w023ttU510010Ex11023KKAy12010Ex1E013GU

Oblivion:

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Item Hash:
CI-100008Oblivion02504010405A09051-2000B07600-9990D07600-9990F00M0201b0N10P0201B0Q020110U010F0j013D70n010110s010Cq0x010Cq0+0201G5P1D01335

Item Link:
https://hppeng-wynn.github.io/custo...F0j013D70n010110s010Cq0x010Cq0+0201G5P1D01335

This took me way too long | People who do this, my respect for you has gone THROUGH the ROOF.

UPDATE - 9/26/2021:

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I swapped the negative stats on all the items, turns out building engines take the « max » stat as the « best » and « min » stat as the « worst »

It should be good now though o/

 

"NEED". I don't NEED to use any build. Does that stop me from using Dissociation Moontower Lumina heavy hybrid? Heck no. The SP change opens up opportunity for ETWA now