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Any Class Atlas Inc Build Aid

Discussion in 'Class Builds' started by Madkurre, Jul 10, 2018.

  1. Pdunk

    Pdunk I'm back baby CHAMPION

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    Iā€™d bet building with resu or slayer would allow the build to improve in general. A good resu may be out of your price range tho.

    well, that kind of depends on your clicks per second.
    https://cpstest.org/
    Pure requires pretty high cps to fully take advantage of entropy. Depending on your cps, another weapon may be much more effective for you.
     
  2. Goati

    Goati actually joeo HERO

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    What sort of CPS do you need to be effective with pure?

    I can definitely cast meteors faster than they fall currently, which is why I was thinking it could improve my damage output.
     
  3. Pdunk

    Pdunk I'm back baby CHAMPION

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    Iā€™m not a pure expert by any means, but hereā€™s my pure rant. If someone smarter than I wants to correct me, by all means go right ahead ;)

    Pure generally gets 9-12k meteors, varying by build. IMO itā€™d be hard-pressed to compete with other mythics like singu, which can do double pureā€™s meteor damage, especially since they can utilize curse/courage, while being tankier and being much less mana-hungry.

    Entropy is a very cool major ID, Iā€™ll give it that. To utilize it effectively, however, youā€™d in theory need around 9cps, to do either M-M-S every second or alternate M-S-M , S-M-S (M = meteor, S = snake). The first method could achieve well over 20k dps while requiring 15/5 mr with 1/1 spellcosts, while the second would require only 10/5 mr with 1/1 spellcosts but netting significantly less dps.

    The problem is, pure has 3 demanding needs:
    ā€¢Very mana hungry, needing between 10-15 mr for full Spellspam,

    ā€¢Having not only to counter the -1 3rd spellcost, but reduce it further to 1 mana, requires lots of -spellcost items and usually 129 int too.

    ā€¢when those 2 requirements are met and keeping good meteor damage, youā€™re typically looking at a super glassy build (~20k ehp).

    Youā€™re stuck with WA, and an already glassy build relying solely on agi is just asking to get 1-tapped by anything. So, WFA. But dex items are integral for their sp, raw spell, and sometimes even -spell cost.

    At this point you needs tons of sp, which are more scarce in 1.20.3, plus ludicrous mr, plus big spellcost reductions, and trying to have enough ehp to actually make use of your damage before you die.

    In summary, I think pure is a fun gimmicky item that can do more than decent damage if youā€™ve got high cps and accuracy, and if youā€™re fine being a bit glassy.

    But unless you can consistently & accurately perform 3 spells per second, and your connection is fast and stable enough to facilitate that, and unless you can dodge pretty well, youā€™re probably better off going with a legendary like peaceful rest for spellspam, or if youā€™re still in the market for a mythic, then fatal or singu boast probably the highest damage you can get on mage, and monster with armor powders can get up there too while being very tanky.

    Of course, Wynn is a video game and if you have more fun playing pure, then none of this really matters ;)
     
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  4. Boi Master

    Boi Master Skilled Adventurer

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    Class: Mage
    Playstyle: Spell Spam
    Restrictions: No mythics
    Preferences: 40k ehp minimum + 2-3 maximum spell cost (the less the better)
     
  5. Pdunk

    Pdunk I'm back baby CHAMPION

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    Standard heavy melee:
    https://hppeng-wynn.github.io/index.html#4_0K30oY0CE0640I90I902d0A20211p11-Q0y+t1g00001001Z6
    WynnBuilder build:
    > Obsidian-Framed Helmet
    > Taurus
    > Writhing Growth
    > Blind Thrust
    > Fractured
    > Fractured
    > Atlas
    > Pulse Stopper
    > Anvil Crawler [e6e6e6]

    Rainbow Slap Black Spellsteal from the meta raid builds thread:
    https://hppeng-wynn.github.io/#4_07R0RZ0r50BU0K00TQ0OJ0og05n0P1Q1h1c061g000010036C
    WynnBuilder build:
    > CancerÖˇ
    > Medeis
    > Vaward
    > Sine
    > Intensity
    > Draoi Fair
    > Diamond Hydro Bracelet
    > Tenuto
    > Black [t6t6t6]
     
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  6. Endertricity

    Endertricity Assorted Mini Quiche VIP

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    Class: Mage 100
    Playstyle: Anything, probably hybrid though
    Requirements: Nothing too expensive or hard to get, I don't really like mage so I'm not that willing to grind dungeon or LI shit for this or shell out stacks of LE. no mythic boots lel

    Preferences: I'm just looking for a half-decent kinda-budget engame build that uses Morrowind, I got one with really good rolls and I haven't had an air build in a while so I really want to use it. All the better if it's off-meta. Don't care what other elements are used as long as it's mostly air

    any help appreciated :)
     
  7. Pdunk

    Pdunk I'm back baby CHAMPION

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    WynnBuilder build:
    > CancerÖˇ
    > Medeis
    > Adrenaline
    > Dragon Dance
    > Diamond Hydro Ring
    > Moon Pool Circlet
    > Prowess
    > Diamond Hydro Necklace
    > Peaceful Rest [w6w6w6]
    https://hppeng-wynn.github.io/#4_0Au0RZ0r507W0OK0K20K40OM0A40B0o211V1D1g00001004fI
    WynnBuilder build:
    > Cumulonimbus
    > Medeis
    > Vaward
    > Capricorn
    > Diamond Hydro Ring
    > Moon Pool Circlet
    > Prowess
    > Diamond Hydro Necklace
    > Peaceful Rest [w6w6w6]
     
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  8. reithal_yeet

    reithal_yeet I make builds, both good and bad

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    > Cumulonimbus
    > Libra
    > Vaward
    > Pro Tempore
    > Intensity
    > Moon Pool Circlet
    > Dragon's Eye Bracelet
    > Diamond Fusion Necklace
    > Event Horizon [t6t6]
     
  9. Pdunk

    Pdunk I'm back baby CHAMPION

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    Keep in mind the massive damage increase from curse/courage, when comparing builds that can use them (prest) and ones that generally can't (event horizon). Event will get more consistent damage numbers in relatively short encounters, but for any fight that lasts more than a couple seconds, and especially for boss battles, curse/courage really shine.

    Curse buffs 11k meteors to 18k and courage to 16k. This isn't even taking into account stacking multiple curse or courage effects at once. If you can consistently keep even one curse/courage active, this allows more tanky builds to outcompete damage-wise with builds that can't utilize curse/courage.
     
  10. reithal_yeet

    reithal_yeet I make builds, both good and bad

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    Very true, just wanted to add that when using mana regen (event horizon) you can stay further away from your enemy making it easier to dodge attacks and your mana is more consistant since there is a chance mana steal doesnt proc. I feel like its a good balance there and its up to personal preference what you want to use.
     
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  11. Pdunk

    Pdunk I'm back baby CHAMPION

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    I agree, very much up to personal preference. I personally also prefer pure mana regen for spell mage builds for similar consistency reasons. But you don't have to use mana steal in a build you use interpolated melees in.

    If you're using a tankier mage build, you'll be able to get closer to the enemy without much danger, therefore being able to charge and proc curse/courage. This brings your dps above standard non-curse/courage builds (if played well, and again not 100% consistent), and since you're a tank, your ehp is already higher.

    I just thought it deserved some attention since they're sometimes ignored a bit in class builds.
     
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  12. sslatt

    sslatt Well-Known Adventurer VIP

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    85 Mage
    Spellspam
    No morph
    Quest items are fine
     
  13. wynn enjoyer

    wynn enjoyer niceflex VIP

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    Class: Warrior
    Playstyle: Tank for wars and raids (wars take priority)
    Preferences: Works in 1.20.3
    Restrictions: Under 48 LE please
    - Note: If there's like a 5 stx build that's like 5x better than anything I can get for under 48LE, please send it also/instead
     
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    SlyamPoetry dedicated pikotaro fan!!!!! CHAMPION

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    PyTT Well-Known Adventurer VIP+

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    PyTT Well-Known Adventurer VIP+

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    Hi, can i get a guild for:
    Class : Mage
    Level : 106
    Build Type : CStack
    Restrictions : Nonmythic
    Preferences : Not too glassy
     
  18. giannator

    giannator Skilled Adventurer VIP+

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    Heyo, recently came back to Wynn and can't remember the last time I played on my 105 Assasins account but the armor I currently have is wack and would like some suggestions.
    Class: Assassin [105]
    Playstyle: Spamming spells = live
    Restrictions: Preferably a set under 20LE and Don't have any LI items.
    Preferences: Wanna be able to complete LI and preferably good enough for just most endgame stuff aswell
     
  19. shork

    shork Travelled Adventurer VIP+

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    Need 1.20.3 level 105 builds for me and my friend

    1: Assassin Playstyle: Spellsteal
    Preference: Tanky (around 60k ehp), sustain
    Restrictions: Cheap (less than 15 LE)

    2: Archer Playstyle: Spellspam
    Preferences: https://wynnbuilder.github.io/crafter.html#1A5A56v6v6v7B9P92 this bow
    Preferably over 50k ehp and try to use nighthawk, but if its better without it, its fine.
    Spellspam would be preferred
    Restrictions: tanky, no expensive mythics.

    3: Mage Playstyle: Spellspam
    Preferences: Event horizon unless something else is better, tanky and able to dual wield KoH
    Restrictions: Cheap-ish
     
  20. reithal_yeet

    reithal_yeet I make builds, both good and bad

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    WynnBuilder build:
    > Cumulonimbus
    > Medeis
    > Vaward
    > Sine
    > Yang
    > Intensity
    > Dragon's Eye Bracelet
    > Eyes on All
    > Black [t6f6f6]
    Use this till you have completed li and then you use this:
    https://wynnbuilder.github.io/#4_0Au0RZ0r50BU0TQ0K00OJ0og05n0P1Q1h190e1g00001006CC
    WynnBuilder build:
    > Cumulonimbus
    > Medeis
    > Vaward
    > Sine
    > Draoi Fair
    > Intensity
    > Diamond Hydro Bracelet
    > Tenuto
    > Black [t6f6f6]
    If you want more ehp you can use cancer, this applies to both builds