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New Challenge Mode: Soulless

Discussion in 'General Suggestions' started by Sir_Doomed, Jun 27, 2021.

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Is this a good concept?

  1. Yes, good concept

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  2. Yes, with changes(post in comment

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  3. No, poor concept

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  1. Sir_Doomed

    Sir_Doomed Can't think of anything to put here

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    Basically, Soulless is a challenge mode that means you don't regenerate soul points via any means. If you drop to 0 soul points, you die and are locked out of the profile. This may seem like an easier version of hardcore, but there are a few differences.

    Remember that there are other ways to lose soul points other than dying. Teleport scrolls also lose soul points, so those are out. Resetting your skill points also takes off soul points, so you no longer can switch up build styles.

    The only way to regain soul points is every 15 levels, when you normally gain an extra soul point. No other effect can grant you soul points.

    This could make for an interesting challenge, as it turns soul points into a limited resource. Please give feedback in the comments, and can someone please think of a better name than "Soulless"?
     
  2. Slpc

    Slpc Probably yeeting anime girls across the country

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    Very cool! I personally would take off the teleport scroll soul point cost for that mode only, but other than that sounds cool!
    "Corrupted Soul" Maybe? (Off the top of my head)
     
  3. Samsam101

    Samsam101 Star Walker GM CHAMPION

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    Only problem is that some people might buy SP bombs expecting it to regenerate them

    It could also be really annoying for those psychopaths who like to go around on their completed HICH profiles casually since they can't switch up their build anymore

    A better name could be ''Mortal''
     
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  4. Da Homeboi

    Da Homeboi maybe tell me if somethings wrong with the wiki HERO

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    Yeah, if this did get implemented, I think a warning should be inserted under the definition saying it does not work for this gamemode.

    I also think that a way to unlock it could be to get to Level 105 or 106 or kill 100K+ mobs on any profile. I would've suggested 100%-ing the Quest Book, but sometimes, World and Territorial discoveries can sometimes bug out, refusing to give you it, so it could be unfair to those people.
     
  5. fishcute

    fishcute fish CHAMPION Builder

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    Tower of amnesia would be very useful in this case
     
  6. Xeabia

    Xeabia A creative mind who's clumsy as heck HERO

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    So, like Hollow Knight Steel Soul? If so, I feel like completing Hardcore while maintaining the Red Icon to show you never died once is already to main hard part of this challenge. Also, not using Teleport Scrolls? Yeaaa, no. Restricting your fast travel really sucks, and is a unintuitive way of restricting the player. Also, if you use a Teleport Scroll when you have 1 Soul Point, do you just Game Over? Also, also; keep in mind, Wynncraft can be buggy at times, like spawning under the floor in a Dungeon, forcing yourself to /kill yourself, which would be costing yourself a precious limited life due to something out of your control, which inches yourself closer to that looming fate of your class being locked out. Steel Soul doesn't really work in Wynncraft, due to how buggy it could be, so a lot of things would have to be shuffled for this to be an acceptable Challenge Mode.
     
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    Samsam101 Star Walker GM CHAMPION

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    This is already a problem with hardcore mode though
     
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  8. Sir_Doomed

    Sir_Doomed Can't think of anything to put here

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    Maybe make the first TP scroll each day free? You can escape glitches, but TP scrolls are still limited.
     
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    StormDragon4 Horribly Inactive HERO

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    I don't see why TP scrolls are an issue here. Just use dungeon scrolls to bypass the soul point cost. Otherwise just use your legs, it is a challenge gamemode after all
     
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    H0Y H0Y HERO

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    Discouraging tp scrolls for fast travel doesn’t make the game harder, just more tedious.
     
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  11. AmbassadorDazz

    AmbassadorDazz Discord Killjoy Staff Member Moderator HERO

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    My comments:
    • Having no SP regen is not any better than "die once, your whole inventory + challenge is gone". The best way to make this challenge more interesting would be to start out with no SP whatsoever, and make stuff that would otherwise require Soul Points free (with limitations - you cannot reset Skill Points with Soul Points so you will have to rely on Skill Point Reset Scrolls). And maybe make this challenge a part of Hardcore Mode.
    • Another caveat is that people do have access to Soul Point bombs, so they can regen SP that way. Making it so that the soul point stat is locked with the exception of deaths would be a good way to stop people from P2W'ing their way in the challenge if they tend to die a lot.
    Honestly, good suggestion, just not good enough to be its own challenge than an extension for an existing challenge (in this case, Hardcore - it would DEFINITELY spice up the mode).
     
  12. IceHorror

    IceHorror Wynncraft Architect CHAMPION

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    With some more features to it and testing, I'm sure something like this could be something. Maybe a feature where /kill doesn't do what it usually does. Though, then there must be a way to not abuse it. (I can already see people use /kill just to get to the nearest town).
    A name suggestion: Ghost Mode.

    Definitely like the idea!
     
  13. OriTheSpirit

    OriTheSpirit Feesh Time 24/7 CHAMPION

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    imo this basically is just hardcore+
     
  14. I_Liek_Turtlez

    I_Liek_Turtlez hi i play hic CHAMPION

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    Oh man would this be annoying.
    As someone with over 600 hours of hic experience, I can safely say that you’ll have a lot of moments where you just get stuck outside of the map because of some reason completely out of your control, and too bad, guess you don’t have any soul points to teleport back into the real map now, sucks to have wasted 100 hours on this run only for it to end like this.
     
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