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Game Mechanics Add More Interesting Spell Combos To Bosses!

Discussion in 'General Suggestions' started by epicwynkrafgemr, Apr 29, 2021.

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Add more spell combos?

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  2. No

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  1. epicwynkrafgemr

    epicwynkrafgemr Skilled Adventurer

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    Currently, most of the spell combos in the game are just barebones simple attack combinations, which there is nothing wrong with, but some bosses can become way more interesting if they have some stronger combinations, that they cast rarely.


    Some examples include: Tribal Sanctuary Chief: Charge -> Heavy Charge -> Multihit -> Multihit
    Hashr (Phase 3) Multihit -> Multihit -> Multihit -> Multihit -> Multihit -> Heavy Vanish


    Currently the king of spell combos is without doubt Panic Zealot

    Having, I counted 4 unique spell combos.
    Teleport - Wave - Wave - Wave
    Explosion - Teleport - Explosion - Explosion
    Teleport - Teleport - Teleport - Teleport
    Weakness - Weakness - Teleport - Explosion - Teleport - Wave - Wave - Wave


    And this is the concept that I feel like should be integrated into mid-high level bosses. However perhaps some low level bosses should have them, to teach players the concept. Greater spell combos will usually have a weak spell at the beginning, giving you time to prepare.

    The ratio of regular to greater spell combos should be: For every 3-5 regular spell combos cast, there should be one greater.

    Here's an example of some "greater" spell combos:
    These aren't actually in the game, they're just my examples
    Rymek Luke: Heavy Push - Arrow Storm - Heavy Arrow Storm - Charge
    Haros: Explosion - Teleport - Meteor - Heavy Teleport - Heavy Meteor
    The Eye (phase 3): Heavy Push - Pull - Heavy Pull - Heavy Arrow Storm - Pull - Laser - Heavy Wave
    Challenge of the Blades: Weakness - Weakness - Heavy Vanish - Heavy Web - Heavy Multihit - Multihit
    Antikythera Supercomputer: Explosion - Explosion - Heavy Teleport - Heavy Teleport - Heavy Teleport - Heavy Teleport - Heavy Teleport
    Garoth/Corrupted Garoth: Heavy Charge - Flamethrower - Flamethrower - Heavy Flamethrower - Heavy Flamethrower


    What you may have noticed is that these combos use all of the spells that the boss already has. They add at most one unique spell to the mix, or just upgrade an already existing spell to its heavy version. I feel like this will make bosses a lot more skill based, as the combos are never unfair, they always have a "warning spell", with the exception of greater combos that are slightly weaker, you will be able to tell by the spam of the white upcoming spell particles.

    Best warning spells: Weakness, Slowness, Heavy Push, Explosion, Heavy Explosion
     
  2. highbread

    highbread highbread

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    not quite. almost every serious boss in the game, along with many quest bosses have been receiving spell combos lately
    as an example, robob's reinvention (form 4) has:

    format: Spell 1 (Cooldown | Damage Multiplier) -> Spell 2 (Cooldown | Damage Multiplier) -> etc.

    Heavy Charge (3 | 200%)
    Probability: 1/10

    Charge (1)
    Probability: 1/10

    Heavy Pull (3)
    Probability: 1/10

    Charge (1) -> Charge (1) -> Heavy Charge (0 | 100%) -> Heavy Charge (0 | 100%) -> Heavy Pull (0) -> Heavy Charge (8 | 100%)
    Probability: 1/5

    Heavy Charge (1 | 200%) -> Heavy Charge (1 | 200%) -> Heavy Charge (1 | 200%) -> Heavy Charge (8 | 200%)
    Probability: 1/5

    Heavy Push (1) -> Heavy Charge (6 | 200%)
    Probability: 1/5

    Charge (0) -> Charge (0) -> Charge (0) -> Charge (0) -> Charge (0) -> Heavy Arrow Storm (0 | 50%) -> Charge (0) -> Charge (0) -> Charge (0) -> Charge (0) -> Charge (0) -> Heavy Arrow Storm (1 | 50%) -> Charge (0) -> Charge (0) -> Charge (0) -> Charge (0) -> Charge (0) -> Heavy Vanish (5) -> Heavy Pull (0) -> Multihit (0 | 5%) -> Multihit (0 | 5%) -> Multihit (0 | 5%) -> Multihit (0 | 5%) -> Multihit (0 | 5%) -> Multihit (0 | 5%) -> Multihit (0 | 5%) -> Multihit (2 | 5%) -> Heavy Teleport (0 | 50%) -> Meteor (0 | 125%) -> Meteor (0 | 125%) -> Meteor (2 | 125%) -> Heavy Teleport (0 | 50%) -> Meteor (0 | 125%) -> Meteor (0 | 125%) -> Meteor (2 | 125%) -> Heavy Teleport (0 | 50%) -> Meteor (0 | 125%) -> Meteor (0 | 125%) -> Meteor (2 | 125%) -> Explosion (0 | 75%) -> Explosion (0 | 75%) -> Explosion (0 | 75%) -> Explosion (0 | 75%) -> Heavy Pull (1) -> Explosion (0 | 75%) -> Explosion (0 | 75%) -> Explosion (0 | 75%) -> Explosion (0 | 75%) -> Heavy Pull (1) -> Explosion (0 | 75%) -> Explosion (0 | 75%) -> Explosion (0 | 75%) -> Explosion (0 | 75%) -> Heavy Pull (1) -> Heavy Explosion (0 | 250%) -> Heavy Explosion (0 | 250%) -> Heavy Explosion (0 | 250%) -> Heavy Push (12)
    Probability: 1/10

    by the way, you're quite off with most of panic zealot's combos
     
    Last edited: Apr 29, 2021
  3. fishcute

    fishcute fish CHAMPION Builder

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    I'd really like some more unique spells. Panic Zealot also has these traps that freeze you and a clone that does something else if it hits you. The eye also has lasers and deathknell wretch. Also there's a few bosses with this attack that causes explosions around the arena like that fleris thing. I'd like more of these now that a better spell scripting system
     
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  4. DragonBeenz

    DragonBeenz #1 morrowind user VIP+

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    wrong, qira has a load of spell combos:
    teleport x5
    teleport, explode, teleport, explode
    teleport x5, vanish
    charge + vanish, teleport + multi-hit
    charge + vanish, teleport + multi-hit x3
    charge, explode x2
    charge, explode x3, teleport, teleport + explode x3
    teleport x2, explode
     
  5. Slpc

    Slpc Probably yeeting anime girls across the country

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    necro I think?
     
  6. Selvut283

    Selvut283 Circadian rhythm stuck on Tokyo time ♪ Music GM

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    Not quite, no. It's within the 30 day limit.
     
  7. Slpc

    Slpc Probably yeeting anime girls across the country

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    Ah alright
    IN THAT CASE BUMPITTY BUMP
     
  8. Itz_Doggo

    Itz_Doggo Travelled Adventurer

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    that's a good idea man!
     
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