War Scream Buff

The current War Scream needs a buff. Warrior in general needs a buff, actually - they're unable to stay in fights for a long time, which is what they're supposed to excel at. I propose that the First Tier of War Scream heal you for 6% of your Health when cast, at a rate of 2% per second for 3 seconds.

Spoiler: Rant about Designing

The whole reason Warrior needs this? Healing.

Wynncraft generally has a huge emphasis on healing. Most mobs in the game can and will knock you down a peg, and their damage is significant enough to force players to stay on guard and be careful. Unless you're a Mage, which brings me to my next point:

The most popular Classes in the game (Mage and Shaman) have a way to patch up the damage they take, and Life Steal is a big deal for most high-level players. I can guarantee you that Shaman would be a lot harder to survive with if they didn't have healing from their Totem.

Meanwhile, Warrior doesn't get any way to heal, which is basically crippling to them. Just by design, having a tank which can't heal efficiently is a bad idea. Other Classes, like Assassin and Archer, are okay because their primary purpose isn't to eat up enemy attacks - they're intended to be fragile, and are intended to have to retreat from a fight. But if a tank can't heal...that's not okay because that is punishing a Class for doing their job. Tanks without healing are more or less one-trick ponies: You tank a lot of damage, now you're in trouble, and you're probably dead.

Life Steal and Potions are the two reasons Warriors can play the game, and I appreciate that the CT at least gave them a chance. Warrior's a lot of fun when I'm not worrying about my Health, and it's thrilling to watch it barely go down after being hit by a barrage which would've been fatal to any other Class. My point still stands, however, that Warrior needs a built-in healing source.

Onto the buff itself, the reason it's 2% healing every second for 3 seconds is just to make it unspammable. Every time you cast it, you're only gaining 2% of your Health back immediately.

 

I’d say war scream would probably need a damage nerf if they added healing. Would the healing be caster exclusive or affect allies too? Is this on all tiers of war scream or just the second or third? If it’s on the second or third tier will it replace the existing buff or will warrior just get a two for one upgrade?

 

Only the caster gets healing, and the upgrade is applied to all Tiers.

 

warrior do have healing in the form of the rally major ID, also a tank doesnt always need to heal, giving buff to defense and damage is also good enough already imo

 

Rally is only a solution if they add it to more items, they've started doing this with Taunt by adding it to Signal Flare, so I hope they do this more with Rally. Right the only build archetypes with access to Rally are EWF, ETF, TWF, and TFA, which completely locks WFA warriors out of being able to heal their friends, which is pretty much the only reason you'd play WFA.

Second, yes, tanks do very much need a form of healing in this game. When it comes to survivability, mage and even shaman to a degree win out over warrior easily because those classes are able to heal themselves and stay alive effectively while still being able to do decent damage, whereas warrior has to choose one or the other, which is pretty ironic considering that shaman is literally meant to be the glass cannon class.
No amount of defense will save your from getting Begone From my Sighted by the Eye if you can't heal, no amount of defense will save you from the Panic Zealot if you can't heal, I could go on.

And yes, there's hpr and life steal builds, but that will always come at the cost of your DPS. I couldn't out-dps Aledar's health regen in the AHC fight when using a Quinque build with 1 mana uppercuts that still had decent life steal and infernal impulse, and remember, Quinque is one of the highest damage non-mythic spears in the game.

I don't actually think that making war scream heal is the answer, in my personal opinion the change that will have the best affect on warrior would be just generally buffing the item pool, but I am glad that people are at least making ideas for how to fix warrior.

 

Fun thing, you can land ALMOST every hit of warscream if you shift uppercut then cast it downward!


not a fix just a fun note.

 

Indeed, but upper sth up and then juggle it in the air with warscream looks way more elegant

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Hmmm, it' s kinda complicated because you have already an item that is able to heal as warrior. Warscream is a spell that can be spammed pretty hard, so you have the danger of just making warriors immortal. I think if I would buff something, then it would be the resistance effect for the caster themselfs. Instead of 30% (I think?) would go for 40% and higher and/or a higher base defence. Also Chrge needs a big rework, for it is just doing nothing.

 

The dex req on infernal impulse is very low, you can quad it or possibly rainbow it very easily

 

That's the primary reason why it would heal 2% of your Health every second for the next 3 seconds. If you're spamming it...Yeah, no. You can't really spam it, but you can at least recover 12% of your Health over 6 seconds if you wait. I think that's fair enough, if not potentially underpowered healing.

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Ah, yes. The best way to fix a tank which can't heal is to make them a support class. (Sarcasm)

 

I read that over 10 times and cannot understand still.

 

rally exists and is pretty nice for warrior healing
also the only buff warscream needs is to be compatible with charge and bash boosts

 

To everyone who mentioned rally:
It’s a major id on like 3 items, two of which are somewhat expensive. This will limit warriors to only play certain builds, and that’s not how your supposed to play Wynncraft.

 

This is generally my main gripe with Major IDs in general - they're awesome, mix up the gameplay a bit, and then get stuck on less than ten items each, which are usually rather expensive, at that!

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I mean, I'd suggest making the Items better, but, uh...There's way too many weapons for the current CT to go back and fix every single one in a timely manner. When they nerfed Shaman's healing, they didn't slap negative Health regen or something on to every existing Relik - they just nerfed Shaman itself, which is kinda what I'm going for here: Just buff Warrior.

I'm sure that it'd be a lot better for the balance if they went back and rebalanced every existing Spear, but...Yeah, no. I've seen at least a few dozen of them already, and I'm not even Level 50!

 

As you probably know, nerfing Shaman's regen didn't exactly get a very positive reaction from the community. Also I've already made a thread on fixing some spears and I'm thinking about making more. The CT is absolutely capable of rebalancing at the very least every legendary spear starting at level 90 (since that's where the spear problem mostly starts) along with several of the rares, just look at the changes page on Wynndata for 1.20 and how many items they were willing to rework.

And yes I agree, they do need to put major IDs on a lot more items.

 

+70% def with +60% (?) attack <3 Who needs required healing then? (Also for ids you can use greed or just hpr for warrior or ls or hp pots).

 

I've been advocating for this for a really long time lol
totally would agree tho I am enclined to say 6% hp might be a bit much but that really depends. Warrior is in a weird spot right now as with mythics it's godly and without its terrible.

 

a major ID is not and should not be a solution to a class problem.