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Add A Wilderness/open Pvp Zone.

Discussion in 'General Suggestions' started by Axcelo, Feb 23, 2021.

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So what you guys think about this idea good or bad? Appreciate all the input too im new at this :D

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  2. NO

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  1. Axcelo

    Axcelo That guy CHAMPION

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    Ill start off by saying I have come from a past of 10 and some odd years of growing up having played Runescape, and some of the first things that attracted me to this game when I tried it all those years ago was the uncanny resemblence both in some item names / quests in general and a bunch of other things i still see day to day as I play the game more. But given all that I just assume that Runescape was a huge inspiration for this game and with that brings me to my forum now, the Oen PVP/ Wilderness zone. This sounds hard in theory I suppose but the basic idea of it would be to add a new area weather through a teleport portal or as extension of the map sometime later down the line if it ever does expand, which would give you the proper warning messages and then if accepted teleport you into the hostile open PK area. In this area there will be resources for players to collect and bosses(slightly weaker than most endgame bosses) for players to fight. In this place if you die you would lose your inventory so the idea of the design would be that the bosses are just strong enough to pose a challenge but be beatable with welfare gear. Now this maybe sounding dumb to some of the pvm oriented players as they might think dueling is enough but I always love the PvP aspects of games and I feel this game has huge potential to add more to that aspect(and yes I know about guild wars). The abundant resources there would give some players the want of the high risk high reward of running through the wilderness trying to gather valuable materials and trying to get back alive, and then there are the PKers, the player who wait and lurk around every corner trying to kill those people who are gathering, then the cases when PKers of the opposite teams end up face to face and have a brawl out in the wilderness to see who walks away with the others gear.
     
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  2. ocel0tgirl

    ocel0tgirl It was ocel0t to meet you HERO

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    Add a poll please
     
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  3. TrapinchO

    TrapinchO retired observer of the wiki VIP+ Featured Wynncraftian

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    The thing is, PvP in Wynn is extremely unbalanced. Also when it was there no one played it
     
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    Samsam101 Star Walker GM CHAMPION

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    There used to be an area called the Nether which was accessed through the Nether Portal at the roots of corruption but it has since been removed. You were able to PvP there.

    For now, Hunted mode is the only PvP option beside duels
     
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  5. Axcelo

    Axcelo That guy CHAMPION

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    I've heard about the hunted mode never really looked into it is it just a toggle pvp typa thing essentially?
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    And yeah I do agree with the unbalanced part but I feel like if they go at it properly they may be able to inspire PK clans and stuff along those lines
     
  6. Axcelo

    Axcelo That guy CHAMPION

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    Sorry, added ^^
     
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  7. Melkor

    Melkor The dark enemy of the world HERO

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    Hunted mode is basically pvp, but it's toggleable (unless it's a hunted mode class). But yeah, there used to be a pvp arena but no one used it because pvp isn't balanced at all, so it got shut down. RIP the nether.
     
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    aaaaaaaaaaaaaa Well-Known Adventurer VIP

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    oh hell no they shouldnt even lose soul points in this area let alone YOUR WHOLE INVENTORY
     
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  9. Axcelo

    Axcelo That guy CHAMPION

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    The concept of it is fairly balanced and its not like its a place where you would have to go its just another high risk high reward typa place with pvp involved, I mean we already got ppl blowing up Horses on the daily wat would be the difference investing in cheap set of armor for the area
     
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    aaaaaaaaaaaaaa Well-Known Adventurer VIP

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    it’s stupid overkill
     
  11. Axcelo

    Axcelo That guy CHAMPION

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    Look man im tryna be civil with you and have proper convo but your not makin it easy with your baseless comments, bottom line there is a poll if you dont like press no (which im assuming you have already) and like I said you wouldn't have to go there as there if you don't like any aspect of PvP thats fine but I think theres some people that actually enjoy the pvp aspect.
     
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    Nukewarmachine emerald tier above LE when VIP

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    inventory loss upon death = automatic no from me
     
  13. ocel0tgirl

    ocel0tgirl It was ocel0t to meet you HERO

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    People in endgame have very good armor and weapons they use, they probably wouldn't want to lose it and buying a new build for the area every time you die would be annoying.
     
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    And depending on the item/rolls you could literally be saying, 'If you die, if it be from ambush or a misplay, or even lag, you're going to lose multiple stacks of LE and there is really nothing you can do about it.'

    Probably why people don't like this idea. Though, it's decent fleshed out and you had some good inspiration. But PVP is horribly unbalanced in wynncraft since toxo shaman, spell/toxo archer, and toxo mage can 1 shot if your health isn't high enough. We'd first have to fix that before we could do anything like this. Because just like the nether will go unused
     
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    Potatomancer Budget Wither

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    Once player caused deaths and poison in pvp gets fixed this would be possible.
     
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    Axcelo That guy CHAMPION

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    Appreciate everyones input on this forum done more research myself and taken into consideration everything yall said and I see why it wouldn't be feasible at least as of now. I guess consider this forum closed. Feel free to vote on the poll still wouldn't mind seeing how many people like or are against the general idea in itself.
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    I suppose crafted gear would have a better all round general use then xD
     
  17. Sg_Voltage

    Sg_Voltage 1.18 was the best update, don't @me CHAMPION

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    The very nature of your suggestion makes it unbalanced. I think it's a nice idea in concept, but this game has unique issues which mean stuff like this can't work. People have already mentioned that PVP is broken, for some perspective a good high level build might have 12-18K health and can normally deal 20-40K DPS, I'm sure I don't need to explain why the math means PVP doesn't work.

    Here's the other issue: In a game like runescape, you can see people before they have the chance to attack you, Wynn isn't really like that. you can hide, have insane walk speed, can go invisible or literally teleport which gives the attacker a massive advantage since they're basically guaranteed the first strike. Adding in the fact that most builds can one shot most other builds (or at least kill in less then a second), it's basically impossible to win PVP as the defender.

    The other thing is hunted, I know you know about it, but the drop rules are also why it has problems. You can't drop mythics, horses or untradable items which basically means PVP is irrelevant anyways since anyone who knows what they're doing isn't going to go into PVP unless they're running a lossless build.

    It's a nice idea to have some sort of actual PVP in Wynn, but it's just not possible and won't ever be unless basically every item and monster gets balanced to account for it, which I don't think is something people actually want in the first place. If you really want to join a PK group, I'm sure there are profession hunter groups out there somewhere, though I should warn you that joining with them isn't going to make you popular with the community.
     
  18. MlecznyHuxel99

    MlecznyHuxel99 Fruman walls guy VIP+

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    Good idea but only if:
    -You wont lose inventory on death (not worth the risk, really, especially when you use mythic)
    -Rebalanced PvP (such as nerfed poison on players)
     
  19. Axcelo

    Axcelo That guy CHAMPION

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    Yeah I completely understand where you're coming from with everything you say starting with unbalanced account builds/items all the way to not being able to see people as an defender. I suppose I compared a bit too much to OSRS in that aspect but I suppose what I really wanted out of it was just a dedicated PvP function that there was some sort of value to doing aside from just guild wars. And hunted.
    PS: I did some research on the hunted groups you mentioned a little while ago and I realized myself that they arent very "popular" in the community xD, which is why I wanted to purpose an alternative.
     
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    Sg_Voltage 1.18 was the best update, don't @me CHAMPION

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    Yeah lol, going to be real with you though, even if there are sanctioned PVP areas player killers still won't ever be popular :(
     
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