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Quest Make The Tile Puzzle In Hero Of Gavel Less Shitty

Discussion in 'Feedback' started by Mac N Cheese Man, Jan 25, 2021.

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Do you agree

  1. Yes, fuck these janky tiles

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  2. No, shitty tiles are fine

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  1. Mac N Cheese Man

    Mac N Cheese Man First Official Member Of The Mac N Cheese Club

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    This is bullshit. I’m actually really pissed off right now and I don’t know if I can finish this quest I am so fucking mad. The fucking tile puzzle sucks. I left Gurix over by the first teleported activator on the fire tile. He should be fine right? As long as I don’t dis-activate that fire tile by activating another one, right? Well guess fucking what. He wasn’t. I didn’t change the state of any other fire tiles, went over to the other activator thingy, come back to him and suddenly the fire tile is active. Why? Why did this happen? Is this my fault? If so, they should be explained better.

    Also when I tried going back to Gurix, and trying to disable the should’ve already been deactivated fire tile it told me “You feel you should be standing on a tile for the disarm mechanisms to know what tile to disarm...” (which I was standing on a tile), so I assumed that I was ok to go onto the tile, as Gurix wasn’t dying on it. Well I was wrong. I stepped onto the tile and he died, great.

    Please make these things less garbage, I just killed this guy because the mechanics are not communicated well enough/potentially bugged (but I don’t know if they are bugged or not).

    It just makes me really angry that I was taking every precaution and he still died to forces out of my will.

    I did it EXACTLY like Olinus here () and it gave me that error message said above when I tried to go back over to him. Basically it broke/bugged or something. Further confirming that this is bullshit, make them less janky.

    Now I can’t get the key because the tiles were programmed poorly.

    Please, make the tiles better.
     
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  2. MlecznyHuxel99

    MlecznyHuxel99 Fruman walls guy

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    I had the same problem, it really should be fixed in some way
     
  3. burble

    burble dragon fruit go roar VIP+

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    Yeah I had this problem as well.
     
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  4. A Human

    A Human Definitely not an alien. VIP+

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    Hi, I'd like to address these frustrating elements of the puzzle.
    It was, in concept, meant to be a fun puzzle - but turned out to not work very well when implemented in Wynn, and in retrospect the design concept was generally not fit for Wynncraft anyway. It uses no common gameplay concepts, and the logic behind it is too abstract too suddenly and becomes confusing.
    It's kind of fun when played the same way it was designed - on a piece of paper with a grid, seen top-down with no side effects of failing. But when placed into a giant tile grid, in first-person, where a character dies if you mess up, it becomes more frustrating than fun.

    (If you'd like a description of how the puzzle is meant to work let me know I'll write it out here)

    To add on to general design flaws, it has a lot of bugs, which you mention (and more). There's very little room for minor errors to happen unnoticed - a single tile not registering that you're standing on it, as you said, pretty much ends the puzzle. This can happen often, and I should've accounted for how likely this was in the planning stages.

    I'm aware of all of these issues, I have been planning to redo the puzzle since beta began - but unfortunately due to personal time constraints I haven't been able to do so. If you have any feedback for how the puzzle can be improved (or reworked) I would be glad to take it into account!
     
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  5. Mac N Cheese Man

    Mac N Cheese Man First Official Member Of The Mac N Cheese Club

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    I was thinking a possible fix was that the only time you could see the activators was when standing on a tile, allowing you to see and use the activators directly next to you, then it’s hard coded so each activator goes with a specific tile, but you can only use it if you’re able to see it. Don’t know if that’s possible or if it’d work, just a thought.

    Thank you for the clarity, I felt awful after he died.
     
  6. Mac N Cheese Man

    Mac N Cheese Man First Official Member Of The Mac N Cheese Club

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    This said, HoG is one of my favorite quests (except for when he died), partly due to the fact of Gurix being tied for my second favorite character in the game (beaten by Talking Mushroom and tied with Ariodo).
     
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  7. A Human

    A Human Definitely not an alien. VIP+

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    That was actually the way it worked originally - surprisingly unsurprisingly updating 28 or so holograms for where to right click multiple times a second was both not very nice for lag and was even more horribly broken than it is now.
     
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  8. Mac N Cheese Man

    Mac N Cheese Man First Official Member Of The Mac N Cheese Club

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    Gurix is one of the only characters in Wynn I’ve been able to bond with so that’s why I was so mad.

    Maybe pressure plates could work, then better displaying which tiles are safe and better describing what each one does?
     
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  9. starx280

    starx280 The boy who cried lunar VIP

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    THIS GUY GETS ME
     
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