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Soul Points - Rests 67.6% Support

Discussion in 'General Suggestions' started by Bixlo, Jan 3, 2021.

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Should this be added

  1. Yes

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  2. No

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  3. Maybe

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  1. Bixlo

    Bixlo I maybe am funny sometimes HERO

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    Hello o/
    This is another suggestion on how to improve soul points.
    This suggestion would add the "Rest feature"

    Resting: A player can travel to an Inn or Lodge and pay an NPC to "rest" For a 30 second rest, the player will gain 2 soul points. A minuet rest will give them 4 and a five minuet will give them 6. This lets players who have died a lot to regain soul points so they can continue with the game. The Price for each is such:
    Short rest(30 sec): 8 EB
    Medium rest(1 min): 10 EB
    Long rest(5 min): 17 EB

    Cooldown of 9 mins before you can "rest again

    This feature would give the Inn builds/tavens an actual ingame purpose and also help players who die frequently play more with less of a penalty. This will encourage learning, give a money sink(for economy) and also help make soul points a decent game mechanic.
     
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  2. Klepto

    Klepto A being VIP

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    Would this be on a cooldown , ie: “You can only rest X times”? Otherwise you could just spam short rests to regain the same amount for much less.
    Otherwise I think it’s a pretty good idea. Not sure how much of a money sink it would be, but it’s a nice suggestion.
     
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  3. PopePurpleTTV

    PopePurpleTTV *:^)=Immortal=(^:* Media CHAMPION

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    With cooldown sounds good
     
  4. Bixlo

    Bixlo I maybe am funny sometimes HERO

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    Yeah I’m thinking a 2 min cool down between rests
     
  5. TrapinchO

    TrapinchO retired observer of the wiki VIP+ Featured Wynncraftian

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    Sounds good, but the prices seem too cheap. What is 30e or few eb for an endgame player? Not much. Almost free soul point regen
     
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    StormKing3 Famous Adventurer

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    Less than 2 eb for 4 soul points after 1 minute of idling, and only having to wait 2 minutes to do it again. It's a no from me

    P.S What on earth is the long rest price when you can do the medium rest, wait 2 minutes and then do it again taking only 4 minutes for 8 soul points and 240 emeralds. 300 emeralds for 5 minutes and 6 soul points, what the hell. Did you even read this back
     
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  7. TrapinchO

    TrapinchO retired observer of the wiki VIP+ Featured Wynncraftian

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    But if the times and prices would change, would you support it?
     
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    StormKing3 Famous Adventurer

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    No I don't think so, it's hugely flawed because of the ridiculous time lengths given but I also think this would trivialise soul points just a little too much for my liking. Could the soul point system be changed? Yes, possibly, but not in this way
     
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  9. Melkor

    Melkor The dark enemy of the world HERO

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    The problem with this in my eyes is that it's still disruptive to the actual gameplay, but instead of encouraging you not to play because playing further will be punished, it encourages you not to play because playing further is annoying. Having to sit and do nothing for 5 minutes is not actually a lot better than having to sit and do nothing for 20 or for an hour, because ultimately any time spent unable to play is time you could spend doing anything else. I'd be okay with it if it didn't make you wait, although I'd still prefer a total rework.
     
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  10. quick007

    quick007 Master Adventurer

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    raise prices pls
     
  11. Bixlo

    Bixlo I maybe am funny sometimes HERO

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    Aight so what do yall think the prices should be. Im thinking they should scale with lvl like how potions do or smthn.
    Like maybe endgame could be 10 EB for a medium rest, 17 EB for a long and 8 for a short? Also the cooldown can be 9 mins since its too short. Also with
    Ridiculous times? what do u mean? So yes gameplay that literally forces you to log off is good. hmmmmmm. At least this way you can speed up the time for soul point regen. And also the CT is almost never gonna rework soul points bc they don't see the issue. I dong get what you mean by "trivialise soul points just a little too" how? Rn the only effective way to get SP back is to pay irl money for them. That's pay to win in a sence since you cant play w/o SP and if your low u have to get bombs to keep playing without waiting for hours. Rn the time for 1 SP regen is 20 mins ingame and an hour irl time(logged out). That's what's truly ridiculous. I'm sorry if this seems like a rant but SP overall is a shit system and there isn't many ppl trying to fix it.
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    Yeah thats the issue with SP overall. My suggestion only aims to shorten the time needed to be able to play again
     
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  12. AcadeeAlkana

    AcadeeAlkana Maiden Voyage Dev HERO

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    Me, with my four pieces of Crafted Soul Regen Jewelry in my bank: "What're you guys talking about?"

    Seriously, though? Firefly Dust is a pretty good ingredient to spam, and has no drawbacks if you plop it on a Class low on SP and wait a bit. Free, shortened restoration times!
     
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  13. TrapinchO

    TrapinchO retired observer of the wiki VIP+ Featured Wynncraftian

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    Assuming you want to do professions
     
  14. AcadeeAlkana

    AcadeeAlkana Maiden Voyage Dev HERO

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    Actually...It's only a Jewelry Lvl 15 requirement. So...
     
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    TrapinchO retired observer of the wiki VIP+ Featured Wynncraftian

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    They are professions....
     
  16. AcadeeAlkana

    AcadeeAlkana Maiden Voyage Dev HERO

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    Doesn't feel like spending a half hour or so grinding up to that level is much of a waste for most people, especially since you'd potentially be saving yourself hours of waiting time.
     
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    TrapinchO retired observer of the wiki VIP+ Featured Wynncraftian

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    But this possibility doesn't justify the system being wrong (if it is wrong, there are many discussions about it) or uncomplete
     
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    Melkor The dark enemy of the world HERO

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    Yeah. Overall this would be an improvement, but I'm worried it might be a "wait and see" issue if this were added. That would just lead to a longer period before they get properly fixed, which is what they really need. That said, I'd prefer this to what we have now by a long shot.
     
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    I was referring to the ridiculous resting times you proposed for the tavern, as I said previously (when you said 2 minute break between them, even 9 minutes is too short) Remember:

    "What on earth is the long rest price when you can do the medium rest, wait 2 minutes and then do it again taking only 4 minutes for 8 soul points and 240 emeralds. 300 emeralds for 5 minutes and 6 soul points, what the hell. Did you even read this back" - I know you've changed the prices but it's still dumb
     
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    quick007 Master Adventurer

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    why would I give up precious jewelry slots for this?
     
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