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Dungeons Key Upgrade/degrade System

Discussion in 'General Suggestions' started by 9o62, Nov 19, 2020.

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Which do you agree with

  1. Key Upgrader

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  2. Key Upgrader (Partially)

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  3. Key Degrader

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  4. Key Degrader (Partially

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  5. Both

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  6. Both Partially

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  7. Nothing

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  1. 9o62

    9o62 Well-Known Adventurer Builder

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    I made something like this 6 months ago. So how this works is:
    Key Upgraders:
    3 keys/6 Fragments = 1 Key of 9 lvls ahead
    The outliers are:
    DS -> IP
    For IP keys you need 5 DS keys, or 6 Fragments for an IP key
    GG -> FF
    You need 4 GG keys + 2 Fragments/5 GG Keys to make an FF Key (Since FF is 36 levels ahead)
    There should be Corrupted Key Upgraders which basically upgrade keys except for corrupted dungeons, and it's 2 corrupted keys for a corrupt dungeon 4 levels ahead (I don't think 11 levels (FF -> EO) is much different then 9)

    Benefits:
    Somewhat can make a profit as later level dungeon keys are easier (from my experience) to sell.
    For mid-level playthroughs, you can upgrade keys to get one your level if you need.
    If you want to run a dungeon with a friend it can help.

    Key Degraders:
    1 Key/3 Fragments 9 levels higher then another can be converted into 2 Lower level keys as you pay emeralds.
    1 EO Key + 20 EB -> 2 FF Keys
    1 FF Key + 15 EB -> 3 GG Keys
    1 GG Key + 12 EB -> 2 UR Keys
    1 UR Key + 10 EB -> 2 IB Keys
    1 IB Key + 8 EB -> 2 SST Keys
    1 SST + 4 EB -> 2 UC Keys
    1 UC Key + 2 EB ,> 2 LS key
    1 LS + 1 EB -> 2 IP keys
    1 IP Key + 1 EB -> 5 DS Keys



    I am going to make a corrupted version of that tomorrow.

    Also if u vote nothing on the poll please state why or if you partially agree
     
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  2. dr_carlos

    dr_carlos Morph Gang!

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    This is a good idea, however it seems OP for some (for instance doing FF once and getting an EO key from it), and underpowered for others (for instance getting 5 Decrepit Sewers keys just to do Infested Pit).
    Also, where would the Upgraders/Degraders be?
     
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    9o62 Well-Known Adventurer Builder

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    DS keys are easy as heck to get and this will give a reason to actually use DS keys) to get (They take like 20 seconds to get), and FF is pretty long (Let's say 20-30 minutes, in that time you can get an EO key) if you ask me and it can serve for leftover fragments (Honestly I don't see too much of a point in, keep in mind I said too much because like you'd only want it for a cool FF reward/running it with a friend and otherwise I don't see much point after you get the good item because the only reason you should run it afterwards is if you want to help a friend/haven't done it in a bit and want to see how it was and i wouldn't recommend actively key hunting to upgrade keys).

    Corrupted versions in towns/Forgery, and others in town, but the dungeons that you can upgrade/degrade for depend on the city level
     
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    So DS to IP and IP to LS in Ragni; IP to LS and LS to UC in Detlas; LS to UC and UC to SST in Nemract; UC to SST and SST to IB in Almuj; SST to IB and IB to UR in Nesaak; IB to UR and UR to GG in Troms; UR to GG and GG to FF in Pirate Town; GG to FF and FF to EO in Corkus City; and FF to EO in Lutho?
     
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    It should go like that, except not sure if Pirate Town should have an upgrader to/degrader from a dungeon 30 levels higher then the place (Ig its fine as Detlas has IB tp scrolls)
     
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    Yeah, I just did Before -> Dungeon Dungeon -> After. I think it should because then people can convert their keys straight after finishing the dungeon and not have to go to Corkus City...
     
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    1 LE is really too expensive. EO keys are already one of the hardest to get, and FF keys are comparatively easy to get.
     
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    Yeah.
    Maybe just cap it at 10 or 20 EB.
     
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    9o62 Well-Known Adventurer Builder

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    Ok I'ved nerfed the price after thinking about it. I think it more affordable and not too expensive. I think 10 EB is way too low for an EO key conversion, 20 seems more reasonable.
    Also Corkus isnt far from GG, /kill or take seaskipper to pirate town and use the nexus (Or seaskipper), go to nemract (If no selchar passes at pirate town which I dont think there is) then go to selchar and use wavebreaker (There shouldn't be a reason to not start Envoy 1 as even to access wavebreaker you need to just take like 20 seconds). If you have Nexus, it should take around a minute or two, otherwise 3 minutes if you've done part or whole of envoy 1, or if you need to swim maybe 5 minutes.

    Edit: Pirate cove has selchar passes so itd take like 2 mins without nexus, with nexus like 1 minute or like 5 mins if you're not high enough lvl for Envoy 1 but I'd use a lvl 83+ playthro or just wait for later
     
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    I'm not sure that level 15 or whatever the IP level is players have 2 EB?
    I would suggest the following:
    Or maybe 1 IP Key + 32 E = 5 DS Keys
     
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    2 Eb I wouldn't say is hard to get (Takes like 5 mins or less) but I guess 2 eb is a lot at lvl 18
     
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    I agree that it's easy to get, but after starting a new class recently I have remembered how little emeralds you get at low levels.
     
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    I will start a character and see lol but afaik a new lvl 18 class took like 5m for like 5 eb, I will see tho
     
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    Yes but I am not pro gamer
     
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    Bump10chair
     
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    bump --,,--''
     
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    what. I can’t go anywhere in SE without finding one. I almost never see FF guardians
     
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    That statement was before the day that I found two within 1 minute of each other. Apparently the middle of the eyeball forest (sw of the large group of spikes with red bases) is a spawn location for them.

    FF key guardians are similar, it spawns quite often in south eastern corkus. Occasionally in geyser pit too but thats really rare.
     
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