1.20: Thoughts And Speculations Thread

This thread is a place for you to share your thoughts and speculations on 1.20. It used to be a thoughts thread but has now been repurposed into a neat little speculation compilation.

July:

Spoiler: Image 1

Image 1.

This image pretty much shows that a lot more caves are getting the early-game collection treatment. This will make exploration more exciting since I always enjoy exploring caves like these.

Spoiler: Image 2

Image 2.

This one is captioned ''Quest improvements''. I'm pretty sure this is Underwater since there are low level crabs nearby and there is a general water theme. It also looks pretty close to the underwater area.

Spoiler: Image 3

Image 3.

This is a new version of malic. Let me just say it looks a lot nicer and I'm excited for it.

Spoiler: Image 4

Image 4.

This is supposedly a test of some kind. I guess it's something to do with NPC height because of the stairs but I don't know why they would need to test something that works perfectly fine. I also guess it could be a test for making Therck more noticeable since some newer players might miss him as they enter Nivla (notice how they mixed in cracked stone bricks on those stairs)

Spoiler: Image 5

Image 5.

I'd make a big speculation thing on this but I already made an entire thread about it.

August:

Spoiler: New town

New town.


This is a town. The thread claims it's a revamp of an existing town but @JaydonTheWarrior found a bridge in Gavel that looks exactly the same as the one seen here. The thread about it can be found here.
It's close to Bucie so it COULD be a Bucie rework, but since it crosses the river that has level 60-70 mobs on the other side I would guess it isn't. Instead, it's a new town situated on the bridge. It could also be a rework of the Llevigar army camp seen near the bridge.

Spoiler: Void teleportation rework

Void teleportation rework.

This is just a cool thing they are adding. Nothing really to speculate about here. While it does show some of the new void, the void stuff is already explained in the October section of this thread.

Spoiler: Dungeon chest

Dungeon chest.

So this is pretty cool. The way it works is that if you go to The Forgery and complete a certain amount of dungeons in a row, your chance to get some cool stuff will increase. This caps at 7 dungeons but I have a feeling it will later go up to 8 when CGG is added.

Spoiler: Extra image from a test that I thought I'd include because why not

September:

Spoiler: Image 1

Image 1.

I think this area is new. Can't think of anywhere that looks like this and uses Nii runes. Perhaps it's the CoW's chamber and the Nii rune is part of the Twain seal shown in A Hunter's Calling?

Spoiler: Image 2

Image 2.

I am 100% certain that this one is new. I actually think now that it MIGHT have something to do with the Realm of Light as there are 3 of them and I theorise that maybe they would hover over the seeds. Other than that I'm not too sure.

Spoiler: Image 3

Image 3.

This image shows some stunning mountains. I have 3 thoughts on what this could be:
The Realm of Light (most unlikely)
Aldorei Valley (Most likely)
A new area surrounding the Delnar manor (eh)
These look absolutely beautiful though and I can't wait to see these in game, well done content team.

Spoiler: Image 4

Image 4.

This image depicts a large room with a clock theme. It's probably the clock challenge, however I don't see how you would enter the rooms (which makes me think that they get spawned there now).
@TrapinchO made a good point though. It could also be Death's realm. Inside death's mansion there is a room with a sand timer counting down how long the world has left. I still think this is the clock secret though and I am excited to see what other changes will be made to it.

Spoiler: Image 5

Image 5.

This is probably the void. Some kind of sword is plunged into the ground. I'm beginning to think there might be some kind of new quest in the void soon (update: this has more known about it now, see october section)
Question is... why is it so big?

Spoiler: Image 6

Image 6.

This is 100% the Sakura Dojo. This image also shows a teaser for a brand new weapon skin set and a hat to coincide. However, it raises a question. You would THINK that if there was a dead body outside a peaceful dojo, the Sensei would have had it moved... Maybe they are removing Enter the Dojo and replacing it with a quest about mysterious ninja deaths...

Spoiler: Image 7

(Secret) Image 7.

This image is (technically) not included in the thread. It can only be found by clicking a secret hyperlink that is on the exclamation mark at the end of the line ''See you all next month!''
This dapper frog is certainly involved in some kind of Shattered Minds rework. I hope he doesn't replace that big frog in the current quest because I love pressing his nose and watching his eyes light up and pop out
(Also, his design kind of reminds me of the Colossal Rat. I don't know if Jbip did the design work for the Almighty Rat but if he did this certainly teases another Jbip quest. Let's hope it's just as good as Misadventure on the Sea)

October:

Spoiler: Fallen Protectors

Fallen protectors



This video shows off some great new stuff in the void and is linked to the ''secret.png''
It's all about some ''fallen protectors''. While nothing is said in the video, there's some stuff to mention.

1: The large weapons and arms
This whole video seems to be a continuation of the large sword from thread 2. It was speculated that the sword belonged to the giant valley colossus behind Kandon-Beda and it seems that has come true. There are multiple arms scattered throughout the void now that are made of stone and emerald blocks, just like the colossus. It seems there were multiple variants of the colossus previously and they protected the Ahms region before it crumbed, possibly being accidentally killed by Farcor when it collapsed from the greed of the villagers. We still need to know what's under the feet of the last living colossus, though.

2: The secret mentioned in the pinned comment
The pinned comment of the video claims there is a secret, and the best guess I've seen so far is by @Bart (MC) who went through the trouble of analysing the entire video. He found this rainbow thing in the background. (note: @TrapinchO found it before him)

While he speculates it's a ??? related thing, I think otherwise. ??? is a level 80 quest but you can't go into the void until level 95. To me, it looks like a hot air balloon. Perhaps the ending of the quest will change and Ynnos sends down a hot air balloon instead of some random dude with a crane who just happens to be lowering it into the void.

3: The mysterious symbol.
This video finally connects the symbol to the void and people immediately made another connection. You see, secret.png is very similar to the common symbol for air/wind. If you win 1000 meters under, you get a necklace called ''Ominous wind''. Meanwhile, there is also an item called ''Follow the wind'' which talks about a Wind Fortress and how it fell into the void when Farcor destroyed Ahms. This is so well connected up that i would go as far as to say that this is 95% the truth about the symbol. This could also be Gale lore stuff since that is related to the wind but who knows.

My thoughts

Spoiler: My thoughts

My thoughts

I love the new stuff and how Gavel is getting a complete overhaul. I really hoped that this would happen to gavel and honestly seeing all of these new designs is very hype-inducing.
However, there's a part of me that's kind of sad. Sad to see the old Gavel style go. It certainly looks a lot more magical like Gavel was intended but it's not the Gavel I know. Not yet, anyway.
I don't know how to feel about it. One of my least favourite parts about Gavel has always been its design It's very... drab and unappealing to the eye. This was obviously intended since it's all decayed and this update is going to change that in a way that feels strange. I'd love to see the light forest become an enchanted wonderland with this update but at the same time it would never feel quite the same. I don't know.. The redesign of Detlas (as well as most of Wynn) was for the better and I hope that Gavel's redesign follows the same path.
Also, I've yet to see anything pointing toward Troms secret discoveries. I'm beginning to think that the area of gavel that goes from Llevigar to Dark forest (or maybe Kander) is going to get some discoveries instead. Interested to see how those will be.

 

The little swirl reminds me of either the swirl pattern on a tree or the nether portal. I'm leaning towards a tree.

 

Image 4 is probably the temple in the valley of time.

 

I thought the swirls were going to be apart of the void. Yeah, I would love a Gavel revamp.

 

Whatever the symbol is, I feel like it has to be more important than anything else on the thread, given that salted specifically liked a post about it. This is all just personal speculation though, I genuinely have no clue what it means.

 

still no eye of the storm...
Anyway,

There is an EXIT though, I guess this is some place where you get the forgery chest (eh) or maybe just some cave with t3/4 chest near the CoW cave. Since Twain sealed the cave using Nii runes at the entrance (what I saw in AHC)

I think it is the void though, because the swirls are just floating and there are no mountains and ground. Yeah I hope realm of light rework too

I am sure this is aldorei because light green and birch wood.

I believe it is the clock challenge as clock tower right now really lacks QoL. As for the way to get in, I guess that you teleport inside and get out from the exit (which is not in the picture because angle)

Seiken Excalibur
Sure lol, I hope they should add one quest or two that have something to do with the void town so that it wont feel useless

The quest, seriously, needs a rework. The puzzle and token rooms is fine for me but the TEA. THE TEA. IT IS JUST A FEW CLICKS AND IT IS EASIER THAN COOK ASSISTANT. Asking you to solve a murder mystery (I guess) is cooler for this kind of quest.

Please no shattered minds rework, please no it is a lot better than the other quests so please no
I doubt it will be shattered minds though. Instead I would guess it is a new pet or some new friendly creatures.

I guess that is something that has something to do with Gavel lore

 

Now that I think about it, remember that in the lore the runes are from an ancient civilization in Gavel that combined them which resulted in their downfall? And notice how these teasers have featured locations in Gavel, runes, and ancient ruins? I wouldn't be surprised if we learn more about that ancient civilization this update. Maybe they are the ones that also made the golems and the LAD?

 

They have reworked his area already, I don't see why they would do it again.

 

This...
I need this.....
Please...................

 

At what point is that stated in the lore?
Also I still want to believe that Ohms the golemancer created the golems but who knows

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If Jbip does it, it'll probably be better.

 

Az lore?

 

Az runes aren't even in the game yet...
If they are, where can I find this information?

 

No Az the weapon.

 

It talks about scientists finding Nii, Az and Ek runes though. Not about an ancient civilization that collapsed. The ''ancient'' part refers to Nii, Uth, Az and Ek guardians. No clue if Tol guardians canonically exist.

 

Mysterious runes, held by inexplicable ancient guardians, were once moulded together for study purposes. The experiment went awry, as the runic words Nii, Az, and Ek were combined in a reaction that resulted in the collapse of a civilization.

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I mean we don’t know if they actually created the runes, but we do know for certain that they’re combination did result in the result of the ancient civilization.

 

wh-

i want to say it's the lore for the arcane village but honestly i'm not sure

 

Either way this is just speculation. For all we know it could've been the frog in the top hat that's responsible for the runes.

 

god damn it kermit

 

would fit with the rat pet but i want him to be a quest npc