A Bit Of A Change For Mana. (96.2% Support) (150+ Support)

The Suggestion

This is a fairly simple change:
Make it so players have 100 mana instead of 20
as well as scaling up the amount of mana spells use, and the amount of mana regen/mana steal items give.
As an example, uppercut would cost 50 instead of 10 when casting it.

Why?

The reason I'm suggesting this is because this would make intelligence... less wonky.
For those of you who don't know, intelligence doesn't work on a skill point by skill point basis, it only takes effect on certain intervals, which can be seen here on Wynndata:
https://www.wynndata.tk/mana/
With this change, 1 intelligence would actually do something. It will more so work on a skill point by skill point basis, and in doing so, will actually be more like the other skill points.

Chart provided by @Verle

(Chart depicts different intelligence intervals for specifically mage's meteor.)

The change would also allow for the item team to get more specific with mana regen, mana cost, and mana steal ids on armor, but frankly, that's just a side benefit to this.

Now, a lot of you are going to completely ignore the fact that this suggestion says "Scale everything else" and start talking about what a terrible idea this is. So, I'm warning you now, don't fucking do it, please, actually read the thread.

 

I like the idea, although i feel like scaling everything would be a ton of sudden work, and i don't know how hard it is to actually code the 100 mana change ingame, but other than that i'd say yes

 

Actually I don't think it is that bad idea except I don't like chamges to core mechanics except I like how it is nice with hunger (which is propably the reason for the number)

I can't really see something bad, except the amount of work which might seem unnecessary for the change.


Could you add some examples so we can see more clearly how it you improve combat?

 

I think its fairly self explanatory though?
Meteor, for example, cost 40 mana instead of 8,
This is mainly so 3 intelligence would decrease it by 1 point, instead of literally doing nothing.
You could of course, also get far more specific with other mana values,
Class balancing could be improved for example.

 

I mean this technically doesn't actually solve the problem of individual int points not doing anything, it just makes the situation better

 

I mean, sure, its not a 1 to 1 every skill point does something
But its like every 2 or 4 does something.

 

What a god damn idiot, why would you want to give every 80 more mana than we already have? This idea seems completely absurd and idiotic.

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Don't be stupid and think my comment was legit either, it was fully sarcasm. It's a wonderful idea and could make intel a lot more versatile, rather than needing to pump 105 intel exactly or 68 intel or whatever interval you'd need as of now, you can just pump as much as you desire into it.

 

Brilliant idea! This would also make the mana cost % ID a bit better to handle too!

 

Please yes, spellcosts are insanely dumb rounding-wise (both int and the %id), and this makes them significantly less dumb!!

 

Will mana regen/steal also get x5 boost from this?

and I need details about changes on spell cost ids!

 

This is one of those things that was nagging me for a while that I just didn't think about, it would totally make mana more fluid and lower the significance of thresholds, cause there's nothing worse than a -33% fanta or a -60% slayer. The only potential problem I see is that you could get 1-cost spells that only use 1% of total mana, so spell cycling might be op. On the other hand, that does give some use to ridiculous -spell costs on weapons like silent ballet or warp.

 

its not like an individual point in any other stat brings any observable benefit either

it'd improve classbuilding i suppose in that mana values are more varied

imagine if your hp rounded to the nearest 2000 or something

i imagine so

idk

 

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note: I'm not japanese

 

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would be very useful, though it is a question of how exactly to do it. id love for that to happen so classbuilder is just simpler

 

Yes this is a nice suggestion, so that things like mana regen/steal will be more precise (you can do something like 43 mana regen and -27 spell cost, isnt it great)

 

You know, I almost don't want to put "100% approval" just due to the fact some ass hat will see it, and vote no.

Maybe I'm to cynical with threads now days.

 

You can put “nearly 100% approval” ;)

 

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