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World Fix The Partial Underwater -> Underice Issue

Discussion in 'General Suggestions' started by Saya, Jul 10, 2020.

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fix jank?

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  1. Saya

    Saya you win at uwynn HERO

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    yeah I can't believe it either, #questions moment

    Solution: Make a reward helm that's also a quest helmet, while you give the original helm at the end of Underwater. Something simple like Upgraded Breathing Helmet I, which you then give for Underice.


    I know it's pretty "unnecessary" but making stuff airtight is good :)

    or just: Underwater should let you in if you have Breathing Helmet II as well. (thanks druser for big brain)
     
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  2. Yraw

    Yraw Water Fountain

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    this should be in bug reports smh
     
  3. Saya

    Saya you win at uwynn HERO

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    it's an addition that needs to be made so it belongs here smh
     
  4. Aya

    Aya Very Serious Gensokyo Journalist

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    How about we just don't use helmets
     
  5. Saya

    Saya you win at uwynn HERO

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    Well the two quests end up with 0 quest helmets at the end, since you give I for underice and II isn't a quest item.
    Quests that really don't need a helmet like Iron Heart should be complained about though.

    I really don't get why this not-even-hot take is in this thread. It's not relevant in any way.
     
    Last edited: Jul 11, 2020
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    one_ood c lown VIP

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    i think we should add a necromancer class to the game. it is relevant because players playing the necromancer class would likely complete the quests "underwater" and "underice"


    but yeah, +1, seems like it wouldn't be too much of a change, and could be pushed w/ early game update coming soon(tm)
     
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  7. Saya

    Saya you win at uwynn HERO

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    hopefully this gets the attention of some QA
    but this is a pretty big change so idk
     
  8. Lex!

    Lex! :] CT Manager Ability Designer QA GM

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    wouldn't doing this break the quest progress of any player who has completed underwater but not underice when this is implemented?
     
  9. Druser

    Druser ele defs don't matter HERO Featured Wynncraftian

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    Easier fix - Underwater should let you in if you have Breathing Helmet II as well.
     
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    Saya you win at uwynn HERO

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    bumping while farming deaths
     
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    AmbassadorDazz Discord Killjoy Staff Member Moderator

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    Both items can be accounted for temporarily. For example, if a player has Breathing Helmet I (Quest Reward), and not Upgraded Breathing Helmet I, they can still trade it in for Breathing Helmet II.

    Another way of implementing it is to add a check if the player simply doesn't have Breathing Helmet II in the initial stage rather than making a whole stage on its own. The dialogue would also need to be changed to reflect this (note that I'm not Writing 100).

    Old Dialogue:
    • Fredris: I'm having trouble with the fish in our lake recently and I am sure the problem lies within the lake itself.
    • Fredris: I would like to commission you to investigate, but since it's freezing cold in our lake you need something to protect you. I heard the people in Maltic on the coast of Wynn have something that can help you.
    • Fredris: Would you mind coming back with a [Breathing Helmet I]? I think that should be everything you need.
    • [stage break, player shows BH1]
    • Fredris: What is this thing supposed to be? You know, I would really appreciate your help, but this [Breathing Helmet I] does not look like it's going to keep you protected.
      Fredris: Would you mind heading to our local armour merchant and buying one of our [Breathing Helmet II]? I don't want you to drown. Just come back with the helmet and I will tell you about my problem.
    New Dialogue:
    • Fredris: I'm having trouble with the fish in our lake recently and I am sure the problem lies within the lake itself.
    • Fredris: I would like to commission you to investigate, but since it's freezing cold in our lake you need something to protect you. I heard the people in Maltic on the coast of Wynn have something that can help you.
    • Fredris: Would you mind coming back with a [Breathing Helmet I]? I think that should be everything you need.
    • Fredris: ...on a second thought, I don't think a [Breathing Helmet I] is going to help. It will allow you to breathe underwater, but not under this frozen lake. It simply won't keep you protected.
    • Fredris: Would you mind heading to our local armour merchant and buying one of our [Breathing Helmet II]? I don't want you to drown. Just come back with the helmet and I will tell you about my problem.
    This is more or less a band-aid fix to the above problem, until someone comes up with a better solution than I did.
     
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  12. Lex!

    Lex! :] CT Manager Ability Designer QA GM

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    i guess this could theoretically be possible, but it'd be a lot of work for something that really isn't a huge issue. i can ask around, but no guarantee it'll be changed.
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    this isn't currently possible with the way quest helmets work
     
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  13. Druser

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    Easiest fix - remove Underwater
     
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    Samsam101 Star Walker GM

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    YES

    THIS PREVENTED ME FROM DOING UNDERWATER FOR 4 YEARS

    IT NEEDS TO BE FIXED
     
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    Samsam101 Star Walker GM

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    or improve it
     
  16. Jenna Eckenrode

    Jenna Eckenrode Newbie Adventurer

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    Yes, I am facing the same issue since long time. I wonder if it'll be fix soon.
     
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