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Improve Baab And Mooington

Discussion in 'General Suggestions' started by Samsam101, Jun 26, 2020.

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do you think this is necessary

  1. hell yes

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  2. no

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  1. Samsam101

    Samsam101 Star Walker GM CHAMPION

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    Cluckles the chicken (or possibly cockatrice). An early game boss encountered during the quest Cluck Cluck, with an awesome boss theme to back. One of Bob's three pets, he is a worthy foe to many level 26 players. He is brought up later in Reincarnation, which recently improved Bob's fight majorly. So you may think: Cluckles has his own chicken themed arena, a boss theme, and even his own quest? And he's the earliest Bob pet encountered? Wow. I expect Baab and Mooington to have INSANE fights in Reincarnation. Let's have a look shall we?

    Baab.
    Location: Maro peaks
    Role: Worshipped by the Maro peaks sheep cult (uh... ok? does this prove him as strong?)
    Health: 25000 (ummmmmmmm.... that's a little underwhelming for a boss who you fight at level 74)
    Level: 64 (so he's 10 whole levels under the quest level requirement???)
    Arena: A mineshaft area with a few minions who can barely reach you (wtf is this)

    Okay... Looks like Baab is crap. Let's see Mooington, shall we?

    Mooington.
    Location: Skien Island
    Role: prisoner (what?)
    Health: 26000 (1000 more is not an improvement..)
    Level: 57 (what the actual f*** is this bullcrap. 17 levels beneath the player?)
    Arena: His prison cell (why)

    Why is the lowest level of them all the best in terms of gameplay? I propose that we change this. This could even evolve into an overhaul of Reincarnation. A split segment where you choose who to go for first. I will do similar stats to how i just did a moment ago, as well as combat improvements. And I will also provide descriptions of their power.

    Also it should be mentioned that with these improvements would come an inability to enter their arena until you are doing that part of reincarnation and after completing the quest. I would also like to see Reincarnation be a longer quest than it is, so there would also be NPC dialogue and mini boss fights replacing their current states, featuring the same stats. After those, you would fight the pets. Plus they would both use the same boss theme as cluckles (Energetic encounter)

    Location: Maro Peaks
    Role: Worshipped by the sheep cult still
    Health: 50000
    Level: 80
    Arena: After fighting the Sheep cult bishop, you find yourself in a room made entirely of wool. Baab stands before you, and you are plunged into the fight.

    Additional detail: Baab would have a special attack where the wool detatches from him and attacks you before returning to him.

    Location: Skien island
    Role: Powerful being that the skien guards cannot contain but have pushed back to a cave below skien island
    Health: 50000
    Level: 80
    Arena: After defeating the Skien guard who tells you that the being past him is dangerous, you find yourself in a crumbling cavern There are pillars that hold up the castle. Very few remain as Mooington has destroyed many of them. Mooington awaits you.

    Additional detail: Mooington would fly around the cave and fire lasers at you. He eventually lands to recharge, which is how melee classes can do damage. He takes far less damage while he flies.

    He came to this power thanks to him being a cow. You see, he is blessed with the holy powers of the Bovine. He is at one with Salted and is an ascended state.

    As a little bonus, weaker forms of Mooington and Baab along with an equally powerful cluckles will spawn during the boss fight to help bob. They lack their former abilities and simply melee you to cause a distraction.
    Plus, after defeating these bosses, their spirits will appear and open the tomb for you whenever you go there from then on.

    Anyway, TotL has proven that quests with a long story and powerful final boss work somewhat, and I would like to see Reincarnation be lengthened a little and the side battles toughened.
     
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  2. Cutsard

    Cutsard Self-Proclaimed Idiot

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    uhh... i never did reincarnation so i can't really tell whether this is a good idea or not...
     
  3. SLScool

    SLScool Well-Known Adventurer

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    Would you also recommend redesigning Cluckles to be Level 80, or do you think it's okay for that one animal to be at a low level while the other two are around Level 74?
     
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    Emogla3 az is bad 2: the movie HERO

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    he does WHAT
     
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    JohanLTU Well-Known Adventurer VIP+

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    The consequences of CT cult pictures
     
  6. Mistrise Mystic

    Mistrise Mystic Surfing winds and chasing windfalls HERO

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    I think the bigger issue is that nothing in-game guides you to these mobs at the level you should be fighting them. Strictly speaking, they’re the correct level for the areas they’re in, and are probably tough fights of their own at those levels, but since literally nothing in the game leads you to them until Reincarnation, those fights are wasted. I feel like a better way to handle this would be to make it so you actually encounter the two pets as you play through the game normally in some way or another
     
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  7. Samsam101

    Samsam101 Star Walker GM CHAMPION

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    As I mentioned, Cluckles would have a stronger form during the Bob fight, but not in his normal fight. You normally fight him in your level 20s and fighting a boss that is 50 levels above you at that stage would be unfair. Maybe Cluckles is supposed to be holding back at that stage
    How would that be done? You only really go to Skien island to grind and get the set, and Maro peaks for a few quests. Both areas are barely explored, so it would make more sense to have them as a quest boss.
    Salted has granted him these godly powers, he cannot be stopped. Rumor has it that the only being powerful enough to defeat him is the Colossal Rat.
     
  8. suzukzmiter

    suzukzmiter Well-Known Adventurer HERO

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    level of baab and moointgton is related to level of the place where they are located. Skiens island = level 55, maro peaks = 60
     
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    StormKing3 Famous Adventurer

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    So now we have two super hybrid animals where one can detach their all powerful killing wool and fling it at you and the other one can fly around like Superman and shoot lazers like a killer robot.

    Sounds like...fun
     
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  10. Samsam101

    Samsam101 Star Walker GM CHAMPION

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    I literally said that they could be made inaccessible to those levels. Plus there is a boss at skien island who is level 80. He can be accessed at level 55.
    exactly
     
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    suzukzmiter Well-Known Adventurer HERO

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    i just explained you why they're level is so low
     
  12. Samsam101

    Samsam101 Star Walker GM CHAMPION

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    Yes, but I also explained that their level can be raised. Plus, their low level isn't even the reason I made this. Their boss fights are overall underwhelming.
     
  13. suzukzmiter

    suzukzmiter Well-Known Adventurer HERO

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    i don't care, i said what i wanted and you dont have to reply to every single comment i make here ok?
     
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