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Quest Complete Command?

Discussion in 'General Suggestions' started by TotalTelemetry, May 30, 2020.

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Do you think this should be implemented?

  1. Yes.

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  2. No.

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  1. TotalTelemetry

    TotalTelemetry Well-Known Adventurer

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    I've been thinking about this for quite some time...
    Is it possible to institute a command that would help people to Finish/Restart quests?
    As I just said I've been thinking about this for some time now, and I (As well as a few friends) think that this would be a very beneficial addition, I myself am unable to do certain quests.

    I would like to suggest that such a command would be added for those who cannot do said quests.

    I have thought long and hard about this, and what I (And my friends) have come up with is,

    1: This command would be able to be used once every 3-5 Days (Depending on the length, difficulty, etc...)

    2:The person would get everything from the rewards with exceptions such as,
    Receiving hidden items, approximately 3/4 of the total XP from finishing, ECT...

    3: That this command would state that it is only to be used if Absolutely Necessary.

    4: This would not be able to be used for more than 2 quests in a row per player without Severe time delays. (EG, Aproxamitly a Week to Two.)

    (5: This would not be able to be used for very important storyline quests, without severe time penalties. (EG, an extra 2-3 days)?)

    6: This command would NOT be able to be used for the "The Eldritch Outlook" quest, and others for example "The Hive" "???" and "The Tower Of Ascension" quests.
    (Because of "The Eldritch Outlook" being a gateway to the "Final" area.)

    I really do believe that this would be a very welcome addition!
    (As not everyone has a "Gaming" computer or really good internet speeds.)

    I hope you agree with me when I say that Wynncraft really needs this!

    Feel free to ask questions in the comments,
    I will try to respond to them as best I can.
     
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  2. StormKing3

    StormKing3 Famous Adventurer

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    I'm very sorry but I really hate this idea, if I wanted to do ??? or the hive how would it be fair if I just instantly did it, I've played the game for 6 years; in that time I could have completed 400 quests for free, that is not fair. I do understand your frustration that some quests are difficult (bloody a journey beyond), but this isn't the way to go.

    If you're struggling try using the Wynncraft wiki to get some help!

    This removes all the challenge from the game and would be very abusable, especially if you can do it separability by class and just farm emeralds



    Whilst I don't like the idea others might! Adding a poll may be interesting

    Thanks for sharing!
     
  3. TotalTelemetry

    TotalTelemetry Well-Known Adventurer

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    The "Eldritch Outlook" was only a generalization, of course, there would be other ones like the "???" and "The Hive" quests that would be exceptions to the command.

    I was referring to hardware problems, for example, my computer cannot really handle the "Realm Of Light" as to the fact it tends to crash my game, and sometimes the computer.

    There hence the 3-5 Day time cooldown, if it was used more then twice in a row per player then there would be a Severe time penalty, such as a week or so, to prevent said exploitation.
     
  4. A Human

    A Human Definitely not an alien. VIP+

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    If you're running any mods, can you see if that still occurs without them? Using any sort of shaders or visual enhancements might do that due to the amount of glass blocks used in the mushrooms.
    If it still persists, it's definitely not intentional - you can post a bug report so we can see what can be done.
     
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  5. TotalTelemetry

    TotalTelemetry Well-Known Adventurer

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    I don't use any type of shaders, It's really just hardware stress...

    But this thread is really about the idea of adding this command.
    So what do you think of it?
     
  6. A Human

    A Human Definitely not an alien. VIP+

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    I personally think it'd let people skip too much content, especially with quests being the main part of the game. New players might think that quests are made to be completely optional, and we'd rather fix issues that prevent players from completing quests instead.
    However, no regions of the map should be automatically crashing clients. If they are, that'd definitely be something that we would want to look into and resolve - so I'd recommend still posting a bug report so we can investigate this issue further.
     
  7. Melkor

    Melkor The dark enemy of the world

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    Why though? If you don't want to do a quest, don't do it. Adding this makes it seem like quests are meant as a sort of filler, not some of the main content of the game. I don't see any reason to add this. Why not just add a /givemefreestuff command instead?
     
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  8. TotalTelemetry

    TotalTelemetry Well-Known Adventurer

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    Because there are people who believe that the quests should be done in order, And don't do the other ones until they complete the first ones.
     
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    Melkor The dark enemy of the world

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    Then do them in order? I don't see what that has to do with this.
     
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    TotalTelemetry Well-Known Adventurer

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    Some people believe that they are that important, and so they do them in order as to get the most from the storyline.
    And so they won't do others if they can't do the ones that come before them.
     
  11. TotalTelemetry

    TotalTelemetry Well-Known Adventurer

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    Sorry I didn't get to this sooner,
    The long period for the cooldown could be longer, the main idea came from someone who was going to quit the server because of bugs that caused them to die and lose their items, (I don't know the full list.)
    But they mostly happened in the quests.

    Those problems may or may not be fixed,
    but what I'm asking for is a way that they can finish the quest without having to borrow someone's computer,
    It may be that this could only be used twice a month, or even once a month. (To prevent abuse.)
    And this might prevent people from leaving because of the bugs (that we all know) occur.
     
  12. A Human

    A Human Definitely not an alien. VIP+

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    Right now, I'm speaking from my personal opinion. This is not representing any opinions of the CT or QA team itself, please don't read this as such.

    I fear with these kinds of commands the same situation might arise as a /questreset command. It can make people think that bugs are guaranteed to happen and that they shouldn't report them - "I'll just skip the quest", or "They expect this to happen, so why report it?"
    Bugs happen, but that's not something that I think should just be accepted and ignored. In your situation for example, that's something that can be fixed so it won't inconvenience players - rather than just forcing them to skip the quest.
    (Also, I still recommend you post a bug report for this)
     
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  13. TotalTelemetry

    TotalTelemetry Well-Known Adventurer

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    Good points, all of them are.
    But is it not also a good reason if the person cannot finish it because of lag or other problems to include this?
    Because that too is a problem that I adresed in the inital post.
     
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  14. TrapinchO

    TrapinchO retired observer of the wiki VIP+ Featured Wynncraftian

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    It would be propably very, very buggy (like /fixquests)

    And so much work to balance it, debug it, make it work for something for a few players that needed AND something that have a very high chance of getting exploited?

    Also I don't like the "I can't do that puzzle, I am gonna skip the quest..."
     
  15. SLScool

    SLScool Well-Known Adventurer

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    A message in chat telling players to report whatever bug caused them to reset/skip the quest would help alleviate that particular problem. It won't do a lot to keep players from thinking that Wynncraft expects itself to be full of bugs, but it would help with getting users to report bugs should this suggestion be implemented.

    If a /resetquest command is added and it is able to reset quests that are already completed, then this /skipquest command would gain another use case (e.g., if I wanted to see a guy get eaten by a worm again without having to escort him through a forest a second time).
     
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    Perhaps a quest restart would be useful if it:
    a) Could only be used on a quest that has already been started
    b) Cant be spammed
    c) Maybe can only be used on particular quests that can break
    I imagine that it would be used if someone got soft-locked in a quest and could not finish it but fixing the quests themselves would be better in the long run.

    However a quest finisher would cause more problems than it solves and would break the game somewhat.
     
  17. Saya

    Saya you win at uwynn HERO

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    Look up performance improvements, network issues are the only issues that make the game truly unplayable. You can always find ways to make things work on even the most outdated of hardware.

    Also holy shit @StormKing3 I think that's your best message yet, it's so well written :o
     
  18. TotalTelemetry

    TotalTelemetry Well-Known Adventurer

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    I know that it would take some time, that's why I did it now.
    This would be a lifeline for those who lack the proper equipment. (Computer wise.)
    and would it also not be prudent in this case to have a message that states if you have run into a bug, to report it?

    Exactly!
    And that would possibly be a good idea, however, the initial idea was to offer them a lifeline to get out of a quest from a problem they encountered.

    Those are rather good ideas!

    I do have to admit, that could be possible.

    Unfortunatly, this is not always the case...
     
  19. Saya

    Saya you win at uwynn HERO

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    Sounds like you haven't tried enough and are making excuses, like you've done for the entirety of the thread. What's your current hardware situation and what are you attempting to do to mitigate the issues?
     
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  20. TrapinchO

    TrapinchO retired observer of the wiki VIP+ Featured Wynncraftian

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    What equipment? I played Wynncraft with ONLY optifine on 1.15.2 on several potato PCs

    If you have troubles, use performace mids like BetterFPS, FoamFix and play on 1.12.2
     
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