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Relik Major Ids

Discussion in 'General Suggestions' started by Benjin, Feb 7, 2020.

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How many of these do you like

  1. Zephyr

  2. Armageddon

  3. Current

  4. Seeker

  5. Tesla

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  1. Benjin

    Benjin Famous Adventurer

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    Olympic
    Zephyr: Totem and Haul will move horizontally at a much faster speed
    Chances are you've heard of "Flying Shaman", thing is, when it comes to utilizing it, it was unbearably slow and very hard to control, which is why I made this suggestion.

    Now in case you can't realize, Olympic has negative spell cost for both Totem and Haul, the two spells required to fly as a Shaman, if the Totem moved horizontally and was faster, it would be much easier to fly as a Shaman and would make getting further easier.
    Absolution
    Armageddon: When Totem's timer runs out, it will explode and deal 200% damage and blind enemies for 2 seconds
    If you've unlocked the third Uproot upgrade, chances are you're constantly recharging your Totem with the spell, but this Major ID makes it so players are less encouraged to recharge their Totem and instead let their Totem explode in a fiery inferno.
    Hadal
    Current: Shift melee will cast a large, slow wave that can bounce off surfaces up to 3 times with a 8 second cooldown
    I didn't do much thinking for this one, it's more of a "just for fun" ability and I though that it could be interesting for combos, now if multiple Hadal users were in one arena I could definitely see how this could be abused, with several waves at a time obliterating about everything in the arena.
    Arbalest
    Seeker: Totem will produce lasers that target mobs and will charge up for 5 seconds, dealing 100% damage and will produce lasers once again after 3 seconds
    This is probably the least balanced of my ideas, and could definitely use some fine tuning, it feels a lot like the Hadal one since both take 8 seconds, but this one damages instantly while Hadal's waves will probably take time to move and will require coordination.
    Loaded Question & Conference Call
    Tesla: Melee hits will cause a chain reaction, hitting all other mobs with the damage being halved each time
    Since both are relatively fast weapons, I can imagine how powerful this would be in crowd-control, since it basically is a weak Thunder Powder Special, I could imagine all sorts of mayhem when fighting minions, especially Orange Wybel/Cybel.
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    That's it for my ideas, keep in mind these are simply concepts and haven't been tested, but criticism is welcome either way, I'll see if anything is underpowered or overpowered
     
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  2. Epicness937

    Epicness937 Thesead water god. HERO

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    I don't understand the hadal one tho and the end one seems way to strong given how good the end already is. Regardless seems neat +1
     
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    Benjin Famous Adventurer

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    It's either I burn one faction's eyes or make my thread look cool.
    The Hadal one means that if you Shift+Attack, a wave similar to the Wave spell will appear, no knockback ofc, but will deal damage to mobs, and will bounce off surfaces (walls or otherwise) and return in that direction, hitting the mob again, it can bounce up to 3 times and has a 8 second cooldown.
     
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  4. Saya

    Saya you win at uwynn HERO

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    Saying that someone popularized flying <insert class here> is extremely stupid when it's just a generic spellspam spell cost build. Yikes.
     
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    Benjin Famous Adventurer

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    I never talked about his build, and I was talking about the "Flying Shaman" METHOD in particular, not about how generic the build is -_-
     
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    Saya you win at uwynn HERO

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    Wow, hauling after throwing a totem, so original and novel that it's credited to a person
     
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    I said the method became POPULAR not INVENTED, not only is this off-topic, it's completely ridiculous to argue about this, it's just a joke someone made and someone tried to use it legitimately, why are you so bothered about this? There's no other person to credit, he made 5 episodes about this one method, surely crediting him for making 5 videos of a single, bizarre movement method wouldn't hurt?
     
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    Saya you win at uwynn HERO

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    That's like crediting a random class builder for popularizing hybrid, or a random class builder for popularizing heavy melee.

    I just don't like seeing credit where it isn't due. This isn't a spider build situation.
    And this argument is really dumb.
     
  9. Benjin

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    I removed his credit, happy?
     
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    StormKing3 Famous Adventurer

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    You turned it into a dumb argument to be fair, it's all on your side my gosh
     
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    Bumperino, dump-a-tino
     
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    NagisaStreams Sertified idiot QA

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    A few things about this:
    For Absolution: I mean I like it, but the thing is that Absolution is actually meant to be a healing relik (Can get like 2792 heals)
    For Loaded Question & Conference Call: If anything had this it would probably need to be super slow with -tier like stinger imo, also when does this chain stop? When does it restart? Every time you melee?
     
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    It hits all mobs that are in a 5-block radius, and the chain stops if you melee again, also several chains can't stack on each other.
    As for Absolution, it has the lowest dmg of all the reliks, so if it we're a different weapon I could see how it could be abused with higher damage.
     
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    Healing relik, so yeah it has the least
     
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