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New Class Slot(s) For Challenge Modes [88.9% Of 45]

Discussion in 'General Suggestions' started by Bart (MC), Jun 10, 2019.

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  1. I agree with this suggestion.

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  2. I only want one extra class slot (for everyone).

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  3. I only want one extra class slot (for VIP and above).

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  4. I want to see something changed with class slots for challenge modes, but something else (what?).

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  5. I disagree with this suggestion.

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  1. Bart (MC)

    Bart (MC) Ex-Item Maker & Day Counter (MC)

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    Recently, three new challenge modes have been added. They've been received mostly positive, but there have been someone complaints. Aside from challenge-specific problems, I've heard multiple people talk about having to wait days for a class to be deleted and, in general, being unsure if they even want to use a class slot for a challenges, seeing as it can't be used as a bank class when playing Ironman, and they wouldn't be able to use certain build or be too afraid to lose it in Craftsman and Hardcore.

    Now, I'm not saying you should be able to get as many class slots as you want, or that all class slots should be available to all ranks. They're a big part of why you would want to buy a rank in the first place (aside from supporting the game of course uwu), and I fully understand and agree with keeping that the way it is.

    However, I do think something should be changed. Previously, all the class slots you would get were enough for whatever you would need them for. Nons get 5, one for every class plus an extra to make money. VIPs, 7, two extra for the two reskins. VIP+, 10 slots, one for every class and reskin, plus one extra for making money and one for whatever you would want it for. HERO has even more for probably that exact reason.

    As you can see, this doesn't leave a lot of room for classes made specifically for challenges, especially for nons and VIPs. You wouldn't want to make one of your four main classes (for using every build/playstyle) unable to use non-crafted builds, or lose almost everything upon death, or flat out not be able to access your bank. My suggestion is as follows:

    Add one (1) class slot in general, for everyone, even for nons. This allows them to actually properly have a slot for challenge modes, even if it's just one. Otherwise they'd be stuck with either not having the best consistent way of making money, or not being able to play a certain class without having the struggles of a certain challenge whilst still being able to keep the challenge class they worked so hard for.

    Then, for VIP, add another class slot, not necessarily because it's needed, but because it would round everything very nicely: every rank giving +3 class slots (on top of a 6 standard slots), looks nice in class selection screen, and makes VIP a bit more equal to the other ranks. This one isn't as important as the other one, but I might as well put it out there.

    This would make the class selection screen look like this:
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    I think it looks pretty nice.

    I would like to end this suggestion by saying that it's very opinion-based, and I would like some feedback to improve it from both nons and ranked players.

    tl;dr:
    roses are red
    trade market isn't gone
    give me more classes
    to play challenges on
     
  2. StormKing3

    StormKing3 Famous Adventurer

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    Completely agree with everything you said, amazing and well thought out suggestion
     
  3. Pyronucleic

    Pyronucleic Well-Known Adventurer

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    I think it'd be good for a challenge only character, where everyone gets an extra character that requires atleast one challenge
     
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  4. Bart (MC)

    Bart (MC) Ex-Item Maker & Day Counter (MC)

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    I've though about this actually, but I decided against it because
    -it would be confusing for new players (even if it's explained in the lobby or on the class selection screen, some new people tend to ignore everything)
    -it would be weird to have 'normal' class slots with the option to play challenges and 'challenge' slots forced to play with challenges
    -it would make the class selection screen cluttered (not saying it isn't already, but either you put the challenge classes together with the normal classes making it confusing, or add a new page for class selection but that would make it another page for just a few new class slots)
    -new general-use class slots would be nice for people not interested in challenges as well
    -i personally think that, in the case of that happening, normal class slots shouldn't be able to do challenges either, making the whole class system another mess no one wants to make or clean up.

    Not saying it's a bad addition though, and if other people think it's a good idea as well, I'll add it in the suggestion. Thanks for the feedback!
     
  5. Chronozilla

    Chronozilla Mistress of Dern HERO

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    Would it perhaps be possible to make the 6th slot for everybody have the requirement of you needing to choose atleast one challenge mode to create a class in it? That is assuming free players only have 5 slots for a reason.

    There may also be a reason for the final 2 slots that can fit in the 3x5 grid not being there yet, perhaps being saved for hero+ ? ;)
     
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  6. Bart (MC)

    Bart (MC) Ex-Item Maker & Day Counter (MC)

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    Maybe adding some sort of requirement for the extra 6th slot is a good idea (think: having a level 103 class, doing all quests on one class, have a certain amount of time played, etc.), but I don't think making it only for challenges would be the best way of doing it:

    I guess...? I'd rather not think about a HERO+, though.
     
  7. Onni

    Onni Well-Known Adventurer VIP+

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    Hero+ wouldn't be a good idea, it would most likely be around 100$ so people wouldn't buy it that much. I went off topic sorry xd
     
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    Linnyflower ironman btw Item Team HICH Master CHAMPION

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    Good suggestion, I like it.
     
  9. Bart (MC)

    Bart (MC) Ex-Item Maker & Day Counter (MC)

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    Bart (MC) Ex-Item Maker & Day Counter (MC)

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    Although I doubt this thread is even partially the reason, we are going get another class slot with the inclusion of the Shaman class.
    But this was the only extra class slot suggestion this year, so who knows? Anyway, I suppose I'll be playing Shaman soonTM..
     
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