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A Lot More Items! V1

Discussion in 'General Suggestions' started by ThK1ng, May 26, 2019.

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  1. ThK1ng

    ThK1ng the wynncrafter

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    A lot more items to this world! Some are normal, some are pure CRAZINESS!


    Hell's Blade - Dagger - Legendary - Level 75+
    https://wynndata.tk/ci/Custom-561257829
    You not only need level 75, as you gotta have ALL your 150 skill points assigned on Strength! It will give you bonus 800 strength so you can wreck your enemies with a stunning amount of fire damage.

    Machine Gun - Bow - Legendary - Level 75+
    https://wynndata.tk/ci/Custom-457786523
    The fastest attack speed possible AND "good" attack damage? It couldn't be better!

    Bonus Ring - Ring - Unique - Level 1+
    https://wynndata.tk/ci/Custom-809385056
    You can use this ring as long as you get your hands on Level 10 of every stat: Strength, Dextrecity, Intelligence, Agility and Defence. Gives a boost against every elemental enemy.



    BONUS - My build! - Level 22
    https://wynndata.tk/s/JTV3AK
     
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  2. yellowscreen

    yellowscreen Certified Lurker

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    YOU SHOULD KNOW
    You can only put 100 skill points in a skill, so if you want to get 150 skill points, you have to use items and potions

    Becides, these aren’t really accepted, there’s an item team for making items


    Notes on items:
    Skill points stop giving effect after about 130 or so
    The bow? Look at cluster.
    The ring? 13% damage is way too much and the skill req is easy to get.

    I’d recommend you learn more about making items before trying to make them.
     
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  3. ThK1ng

    ThK1ng the wynncrafter

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    "I’d recommend you learn more about making items before trying to make them." I completely agree... but still do you like the concept?
     
  4. yellowscreen

    yellowscreen Certified Lurker

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    First, learn to quote.

    Second: the concepts are bad. The first one just won’t work due to meghancis, the second one’s a bootleg cluster and the third one is Intensity but not a hive item

    13% damage on a ring is A LOT
     
  5. ExertKarma

    ExertKarma Waiting for mythics to drop CHAMPION

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    "A lot more items!"
    3 new items


    Sadly none of these items make any sense at all.

    The first one... Well... Aside from the sp requirement, it doesn't really make sense that for a fire weapon you are LOSING health (as fire is the main element which gives hp bonuses), and also if the weapon is going to deal fire damage, why is it's main stat to boost earth damage? There aren't any powder slots so you can only deal fire damage, and so that 800+ strength wouldn't have a good effect.

    Second one feels like a super lazy bob's bow variant, so not much to say other than that.

    And the last one... If you are making a level 1 ring, maybe make it usable at level 1? It requires 50 sp so you would need to be level 25 or so to actually wear it.
     
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  6. Shots

    Shots Yellow Rose Enthusiast HERO

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    That 800 strength is useless outside of using gear that has -strength, as the hardcap for any skill point is 150 (80.8%), which is the requirement to even use this in the first place. This is also essentially an extreme bootleg and lower level version of flameshot hilt.
    The only real good use for this is the fact that it doesn't have a skill point requirement. Other than that, it's pretty bad and easily gets outclassed by multiple other bows at that level (such as Bob's Mythic Bow, Corrupted Witherhead's Bow, Toxotes, etc.).
    ^This.
     
  7. robincaiye

    robincaiye ♧ the local (broke) emerald dealer HERO

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    Hell's is useless since it only has fire damage.
    I mean it can only be overpowered or useless.

    Machine is useless too imo. It has no IDs and its damage isn't good anyway.

    Bonus is too op for its level.
    Make them 4 or 5 base and it will be better (or even 3 lol)

    It doesn't really make sense why it's level 1 but wants 50sp
     
  8. Bart (MC)

    Bart (MC) Ex-Item Maker & Day Counter (MC) CHAMPION

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    Hey, if you want to actually create items that might get into the game, consider applying for IM at https://ct.wynncraft.com/apply . I would recommend getting a general understanding of items and mechanics and a few more levels (you've barely gotten the tier 1 third spell) before you even try to apply, though.
    (As for the items: the dagger doesn't work, the bow is very lazy and outclassed, and the ring overpowered, just conpare it to https://www.wynndata.tk/i/Aurora)
     
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    Qzphs Unskilled Adventurer VIP+

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    Anyone else noticing that you only have 148 skill points at lv75, not 150? No? Just me?
     
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    Shots Yellow Rose Enthusiast HERO

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    Like Blue said, you can only put 100 sp into any skill (the soft cap), and you'd need to use gear in order to get to 150 (the hard cap), so that becomes somewhat irrelevant.
     
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  11. ThK1ng

    ThK1ng the wynncrafter

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    im not that good of a player, pardon me... i just made some random concepts
     
  12. StormKing3

    StormKing3 Famous Adventurer

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    I think that's a bit of an unfair thing to say, he still has a right to make these items and suggest them.
    He knows they're not going to be added, he put time and effort into creating these, and I think they are a very well made, and actually fairly balanced. It doesn't matter how much he's played, as long as he's played it.
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    Don't be horrible
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    He did say V1, to be fair, so I assume he means to add more than 3 items.
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    Don't listen to them, they're being overly critical. They don't know that you just made these for a bit of fun, they're actually very well made and I like their concepts and names very much.
    This is a very good post, I don't see them suggesting items, so they shouldn't be too harsh on you, as a top level player I think that these are very nice. Well done!
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    He's quite a new player, so he probably didn't know that. There's apsolutely no need to be rude and sarcastic, that doesn't help anyone and you just said that to try to diminish him, which I think is a pretty foul thing to do, to be quite honest.
     
  13. Druser

    Druser ele defs don't matter HERO Featured Wynncraftian

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    I do think some are a little harsh, but let's be real - those are pretty poorly-balanced items.
     
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    StormKing3 Famous Adventurer

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    They're not the best, but not the worst either. As it's his first time doing this I find it really horrible to see that everyone put him down, no one said anything about how well he did, they're not even that bad. It must have taken him ages to do them, and all they did was put him down.

    Disusting...
     
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    ParkourTNT Wynncraft has houses in the 1.20 update :D HERO

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    Nearly all of them gave reasons is to why his items are not good, there is someone above that gave him advice too.
    Yes, there were some of them that put a little bit of harsh words to their reasons but its still a feedback.

    Your being rude to those people that gave feedback (with a little bit of harsh words). This isn't an effective way to help the Op.
    I don't know anything about what makes an item good but from what I understand from the feedback it seems that the items aren't good.
    Its alright to give the Op hope, but giving him fake hope isnt the greatest way.
     
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  16. tig

    tig "Because EO parkour killed my grandma, OK???"

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    most peeps here where a bit over the top, but a critique isnt necisarily putting someone down, they all gave valid reasons for why the items wouldnt work, and if anything OP can learn item machanics from this
     
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    Qzphs Unskilled Adventurer VIP+

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    I'm pointing something out that everybody had missed. "The critique says as much about the critic as it does about the work." It's a little patronising for you to antagonise me based on the assumption that I'm trying to hurt the OP's feelings.

    I could just as strongly claim that you're finding excuses to intellectually attack every single one of us through guilt-tripping despite our very justified criticisms.



    I sound toxic don't I?

    The point is the item ideas are objectively unhealthy and unbalanced. It's fair to say that he's a new player, but the newer you are, the less inclined you should be to challenge the system. In real life, a new employee wouldn't attempt to change the rules from day one, and the same principle applies here. It's good to have ideas, but it's important to understand why they aren't already in the game.


    It's fine. I'd advise to leave this matter alone for now. If you're still interested in item making by the time you're a lot more experienced, apply for the item team. A lot of the guys on this thread (excluding me) are really good build makers so they'd be good people to go to share ideas with when you're better at it.
     
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    StormKing3 Famous Adventurer

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    He's not trying to change the system, he's suggesting a few items that could be added. Addmitedly they're not the best or even that balanced. Also Bart did say in the post exactly one behind yours that the dagger doesn't work, so you just parroted back what he said to the OP. Adding nothing to the conversation, something he was already aware of. Therfore you were doing it to try to sadden him, something you can't justify.

    Also Bluescreen said you can't have 150 skill points, so that's 2 people before you. You were not original, nor the first person to bring up the matter of the skill points.
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    It was not my intent to be rude to those people, I just meant to defend the OP. Sorry if it came across that way.
     
  19. robincaiye

    robincaiye ♧ the local (broke) emerald dealer HERO

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    Um people can give the same advice. It's not copying people or trying to add onto something rude (which in this case wasn't rude at all)

    You can see many people sent replies and they were all the same. We all gave our honest opinions and they happen to be similar. He did not try to bring the OP down, he just gave feedback like many others did in this thread.

    I'm trying my hardest not to believe that you're hungry for drama
    (It's suspicious but I do feel like you're just telling people off because what they say feels weird to you)
     
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    robincaiye ♧ the local (broke) emerald dealer HERO

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    Also I feel like [no offense to anyone including the OP and StormKing] you tried to bring him up with fake hope (since your last message said it wasn't exactly well-made) because you thought we tried to 'insult' him. [this may not be true, i'm just speculating]

    Imo this is worse than giving honest and true opinions.


    Like many people said before, this is impossible to do since you can only assign 100 sp and all that stuff and whatever whatever. The concept you tried to present with "an elemental weapon actually supporting another element more than its main one" but in this case, it doesn't work out. It's too far-fetched with its identifications and it's impossible to achieve too, since it has no powder slots and possesses fire damage. Health is also a problem there since fire gear usually give health, not subtract it (usually even when they're secondary elements). Your approach is understandable, but the item you acted upon the concept is not great.

    A normal item like Pure Light Spruce and Pure Jungle Bow can outdo this. Another thing to know about items: Unique, Rare, Legendary and Mythic items nearly always have identifications. IDs are what separates normal tier items with identifiable (unique, rare, legendar, mythic, set items) items. It's hard to figure out what kind of approach you went for in this item because it simply has nothing in it. It's underpowered, has no IDs. Its attack speed is the highest but it barely matches with items at its level, or even below its level. If this was added, it would have identifications and would probably be a unique.

    This multi-elemental rings is far opposite from the bow. It's too good for its level. Many rings that need higher levels give much less damage buffs (such as Aurora) The rings should have a damage base of 4 for all of them, or it should stay the same with setbacks (negative identifications) on defense or other bonuses (such as walk speed, mana regen or mana steal, health, raw and % melee and spell damage, attack speed, etc.) It should be level 1 but need only 6 of each skill point, or even less and also be a Rare item.
     
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