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World Scroll Merchants Should Sell All Town Scrolls

Discussion in 'General Suggestions' started by Zirawulf, May 9, 2019.

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Allow all teleportation scrolls to be purchased in every town?

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  3. Not possible due to programming restrictions

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  1. Zirawulf

    Zirawulf Well-Known Adventurer VIP

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    I think it is a bit silly that the scroll merchants in towns do not sell scrolls to all the available town locations. I suggest that instead of having to go to a specific town to purchase a scroll, that all merchants sell almost all town scrolls, but If the location is farther along than you current location, in addition to their Emerald cost, they also require the appropriate level to purchase (Not to use, just to purchase)

    For Example.

    If you were in Almuj you can freely purchase Ragni, Detlas and Almuj scrolls, but in order to purchase scrolls for places like Llevigar, Cinfras ect.. You have to be of a high enough level to go there normally

    This change might encourage players to move around the world more freely, as they will know that no matter what town they go to, if they happen to have forgotten to get a scroll for the location they need/want to be, they can always pick up a scroll at any town.

    This also might make it easier for players who have been gone for a very long time to get back into the game easier by allowing them to purchase scrolls for where they should be after going through the tutorial again.

    If this has been suggested before, I apologize. I did attempt to do a forum search, and Didn't see anything like this pop up in the first 4 pages of a searches.

    Edit: Edited to clarify I was referring to ~Town Scrolls~, not dungeon scrolls. Also clarifying that the level requirement is to make the purchase at an advanced location, not use the scroll
     
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  2. Yuno F Gasai

    Yuno F Gasai Forum God, FW

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    Each merchant sells the scrolls for his town and the previous towns (also keep a scroll in your bank or smth)
     
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    Bart (MC) Ex-Item Maker & Day Counter (MC)

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    - Would fuck up the Tower of Amnesia quest
    - Would confuse new players
    - Most scroll merchants already sell scroll for previous towns, and Detlas, Llevigar and Cinfras are almost always in that list

    Getting as many scrolls as you can isn't even that necessary, as almost all places are easily reachable with just Detlas, Cinfras and Selchar scrolls. Putting a level requirements on scrolls would just annoy people, having to go on a high-level class to buy scrolls for a class that's just too low level. The current system is a good way of fast-travel (especially combined with the Seaskipper, Selchar/Corkus tp, Detlas/Cinfras tp, Thanos/Rodoroc tp, Ragni/Detlas tp, Eltom/Thesead tp, Ragni/Troms schortcut, ), and I think changing it to yours would add close to nothing.

    also, if you can't manage your scrolls, that's on you
     
  4. robincaiye

    robincaiye ♧ the local (broke) emerald dealer HERO

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    This makes no sense. How could the Ragni scroll shop end up having scrolls from the other side of the game of Rodoroc?

    Also, like others said, Selchar, Cinfras, Detlas and Corkus City scrolls basically bring you in every province so I don't see this necessary.

    Also in the game there are about 35 total scroll types and putting all of them in one GUI would overcrowd it.
     
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  5. Zirawulf

    Zirawulf Well-Known Adventurer VIP

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    - How would it mess up the tower of Amnesia quest? All the scrolls required for it are already purchasable from Nesaak save for one.
    - How would it confuse new players? There are already a multitude of merchants and NPC's that sell stuff that you can't use or buy because of many restrictions.
    - The issue is not really about being able to buy previous city's scrolls, its about being able to buy scrolls for places that are further along
    - I didn't advocate putting level requirements on the scrolls themselves, just as a requirement to buy them before you reach that city, besides that how is that any different from the current system? If I wanted to take my level 3 mage to Nesaak, I would have to try and run them there, or take my Higher level character to a town that sells those scrolls and put them into the bank anyhow. This would just allow me to log into my main, anywhere buy the scroll and drop it into the bank.

    The same way the Rodoroc probably has a Ragni scroll.. Through trade.

    There are only 21 City scrolls (According to the Wiki).. If I was not clear, I was only talking about Town scrolls, not Dungeon ones too.
     
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    Bart (MC) Ex-Item Maker & Day Counter (MC)

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    You're aware that Tower of Amnesia is a level 25 quest, right? How would you go about buying the Almuj (lv 30) and Nesaak (lv 40) scrolls with a level restriction on buying them?

    Well, not necessarily confuse new players, but certainly put them off. It would take quite a bit away from exploration, knowing all the names and levels of cities beforehand. That and it would require some extra explaining, as seeing one or two scrolls is far more intuitive than a whole page of them.

    Unless you're using Statue, nothing is far away from eachother, and every merchant sells scrolls to relevant cities below that level. Changing that to 'every merchant sells every scroll' would be more of an inconvienence with how cluttered it'd be than useful for that trip to Elkurn you just have take.
     
  7. Zirawulf

    Zirawulf Well-Known Adventurer VIP

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    I feel like you are not really reading my replies...

    "a requirement to buy them before you reach that city."

    The level requirement would only apply if you were buying the scrolls at a lower level location. So if you wanted to buy Almuj scrolls at Detlas or Ragni.. you would have to be 30 to buy them at those locations, but if you took the run to Almuj to buy them, there would be no requirement, because the scrolls are sold there normally. There would be no change to the Tower of Amnesia quest because you would go to Nesaak Buy all the scrolls except for selchar.. then boat out to Selchar to get the scroll there.
     
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    Bart (MC) Ex-Item Maker & Day Counter (MC)

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    Oh, my bad. Misunderstood it. Still, my points about confusing and overwhelming new players and it taking away from adventuring around still stand. Putting a level requirement on scrolls would also mean there'd be two of every teleport scroll, resulting in a lot more cluttered bank/inventory (I'm fairly certain putting a level requirement on buying items isn't in the game, so the scrolls would get the level requirement).
    I understand the idea about giving high-level players the option to immediately go to wherever they were from the tutorial, but I don't think are that many still left with multiple classes in the update room.

    Basically, the current requirement of having been in that city and then having to have bought a scroll for it in said city or a higher-level one is fine. If you want instant travel to high level area's we have a boat for that.
     
  9. Demon_Wolf_Fang

    Demon_Wolf_Fang Well-Known Adventurer VIP+

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    The more towns you reach (like neksaak (level 40?)) The scrolls will change. I do like the idea but I still like the concept of going to that town first then you can get other scrolls. Like in nesaak, you'll be able to get the nesaak, ragni, detlas, nemcraft and a few other scrolls. So the more you level up and more towns you reach, you can just do that.
     
  10. robincaiye

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    People would think that you can buy all the needed scrolls from just Ragni and failed they would be angry or confused.
    Not in low levels, though? Some are, of course, but many of the main merchants (emerald, item identifier, blacksmith, potion merchant, scroll merchant) are accessible freely to use (except for Almuj) which makes it easier for newer people to understand how those merchants work.
    You do know what you want to do that results in your suggestion won'T even fix it? You can teleport to cities that you haven't visited with scrolls. So you do end up having to go to Nesaak with your level 3, and this makes it basically unnecessary to go to low-level areas to buy higher areas' scrolls.
    Have you actually looked at any of the scroll shops in different provinces? There aren't Ragni scrolls in Rodoroc, the lowest they have I believe is either Cinfras or Llevigar. Selchar only has its own and Nemract's scrolls because it's an island towns and it benefits from sailors that come from Nemract. Corkus only has Corkus City and Selchar scrolls because their only embassies are in Selchar (and Kandon-Beda, but that transportation system is via air balloons) and they don't just have Rodo or Troms scrolls just because it's lower levels.
    It's so obviously stupid and unrelated to put every single scroll in the scroll shop, makes it as if trade or transportation happens so fast between the multiple provinces happen so fast. (Why Wynnex questline spreads out in around 40 levels)
    It would still overcrowd the scroll merchant, making it 3 rows of scrolls, in which more than half would be unusable for low to mid game players.
     
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