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Discussion in 'General Suggestions' started by FluffyBread, Apr 23, 2019.

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What do you think? (please read first before voting!!!)

  1. ★★★★★ THIS IS A MUST HAVE!!!

  2. ★★★★ What a Great idea!

  3. ★★★ Yeah, good idea

  4. ★★ I dont think so..

  5. ★ Nope, you go away!!!

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  1. FluffyBread

    FluffyBread Bone Hunter CHAMPION

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    Greeting lady and gentleman!
    Have you ever feel like all you do is wondering around the world, killing Orc and burning undead without rest?
    Ever wish you had a place just to sit back, relax and not worry about random monster jump onto your face and kill you while chilling? This idea base on it!



    BEFORE you read, just a head up this may content heavy words or bad jokes, English is not my native language


    "House?"
    Indeed, your own house!

    "How should house be?"

    There will be a quest around level 20-30 (could be higher) name "Journey of Hero" start in Detlas, you have to prove you have done quests before that such as helping the chef or poison the corrupted farm, show that you are worthy as you help people. Reward you an [Old house's key]
    After the quest, you unlock an [Old house's key], walk in portal and you will get back to your house. The portal will only available in major cities. The old man near the portal can sell housing teleport scroll, and it will cost both emerald and soul.
    You can pay visit your friend's house as long as they are online, or if you get invited by someone else, there also need to have a setting to make your house to be private or public of course.

    "Why do we need it? What is the purposes?"

    Now this part can be very complex, so stick with me!

    House can be a place to show off your epic adventure to your friends and everyone.
    Example: killing monsters or bosses over again, do big raid or finish a hard achievements will give you a trophies to place in your house, etc.
    You can buy material deposits that will let you gather them every 22-24h (lower level material may cost less time to respawn). You can buy those in dungeon merchants the same way tools are, but will cost a lot of fragments and emeralds. There also will have limit how many deposit you can have in your house.
    You can buy decorations around the world,
    example: you can buy normal theme in Detlas, swamp theme from Onux, or finish hard dungeon to earn that dungeon theme, how epic your house would be!?
    A safe place you can chill around with friends or just sit down by the pond you bought and fishing the fish deposit you earn.

    You can upgrade your house through tiers, each tier will expand how big your house will be and even unlock workshop and be able to place more deposits and have your own bank at high tier!
    -WORKSHOP: you can gather material around the world and use them to craft working station you need such as crafting armors, weapon, talon, etc.
    Each tier surely will cost a LOT, give emeralds more purposes to save up and spend.


    Now, i also have same idea but for Guild, called Guild Hall

    "Ask for house now guild hall!?"
    Why not? You want a house to relax with friends or alone, why Guilds don't have a place to show off too?
    Think about new member of a guild just joined and they can go to Guild hall and see how Epic this guild went through together.
    The other like upgrade, deposit, workshop work the same with house BUT they cost extremely high because the whole Guild have to work together to earn or buy something.
    The will be special trophies reward when guild have done a huge thing together


    For now that's all for my housing and guild hall idea. Feedback is very much appreciated!
     
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  2. Kheya

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    There are a lot of problems with housing and a lot of reasons why it shouldnt be put into wynncraft. If housing was put in, every player would have to have their own house, which would cause a lot of lag, and even if each house is only one chunk (16 by 16 blocks, definately not big enough for a house or guild hall), thats still hundreds of extra chunks being loaded. Even if it was possible without creating way too much lag, where would it be? Having diferent house plots across the world would mean there would be a limited amount of players who could have houses/guild halls, and the only other option is a floating island in the middle of nowhere, which both doesnt fit with wynncraft and wouldnt make sense in any lore. Theres also the big problem about how housing really doesnt fit in wynncraft in general. In wynncraft youre a travelling adventurer who doesnt have a home, and a house would be the opposite of that. If a guild really needs to get together, there are already several places in the world where they can, so a guild hall isnt needed. Housing of any kind doesnt belong in wynncraft.
     
  3. FluffyBread

    FluffyBread Bone Hunter CHAMPION

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    this can be easily fixed
    Housing will has its own world, you will only see yours or which housing you are in
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    Your reply with "they can just gather in one place, the house/hall is no needed" doesn't really build up your point.
    I mention house and hall are the place you show off and a good place to gather around together as a guild or a party in your house, it put players together and more purposes to grind for.
     
  4. ParkourTNT

    ParkourTNT Wynncraft has houses in the 1.20 update :D HERO

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    Just wanted to throw these here, since this is a house/guild suggestion.
     
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  5. Kheya

    Kheya shoutbox has 100 pages!!!!!!! VIP+

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    What? None of the things you said would fix any of the problems I mentioned. Even if the house was in a different world, it would still be in the same server and still cause lag. Also how would you get to this world? Having things in guild halls is not the only way for a guild or person to show off, too. You do know that whenever youre in an area, there is text on the top of screen that says the guild who owns it and a customized banner for the guild there, right? What I meant by "there are already places to meet up" us that there are cities and a house would not be the only place to put players together. Try going to detlas on server 1 if you want to find people. Housing is suggested A LOT and is never put in because it really doesnt belong in wynncraft. Housing suggestions are made fun of because of how many there are.
     
  6. FluffyBread

    FluffyBread Bone Hunter CHAMPION

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    Its tough for me to show you exactly my idea, English is not my native language.
    For the lag problem, if you say so you may dont understand how the server works, when you get in dungeon, they are in another sub server, get it now?
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    And for the meeting up, i just don't know how to explain, higher standard place to be together or gather material etc !!!????
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    i know that post, but i spread more detail with mine, how to make it real and how should it be
     
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  7. Kheya

    Kheya shoutbox has 100 pages!!!!!!! VIP+

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    I know a dungeon is a sub server, but it is still a part of the server. If a bunch of people go into a dungeon, they all go unto the same place. What you were saying was that each person would have a unique house. However, if it was implemented, I understand that there would be a way to make it lag less because of the post that ParkourTNT quoted. However, that doesnt make housing a good idea. You can pretty cleary see how people feel about housing by just looking at the results of your poll
     
  8. FluffyBread

    FluffyBread Bone Hunter CHAMPION

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    To be honest, this is my second post, my first one i removed because you guys give no constructive feedback and just negative vote without saying a word and explain.
    The vote sure has bad result, but it doesn't mean this idea is bad, it is just you guys HATE every idea with big change and down vote without saying anything. Shame
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    the only person with constructive feedback so far in here is YOU, the rest, no one say anything, their vote mean nothing to me
     
  9. ParkourTNT

    ParkourTNT Wynncraft has houses in the 1.20 update :D HERO

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    Let me ask you this question:
    Why? why is housing a bad idea?

    A lot of players were suggestion for this to be added, you can see clearly how many players want housing to be add. Just like how backpacks are, a lot of players don't want backpacks for the sole reason of "you have bank pages" or "its too OP" but a lot of players wants them.

    Housing will be a great endgame content, and for social players just like how salted state in his long essay.
    I know that I'm kinda cheating here but...
    Still, that doesn't mean that it will be added in a year or two, we might get housing after five years or even never.

    Is housing a bad idea?
    Well, its up to you...
     
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  10. 3:

    3: farlands pumpkin farlands pumpkin HERO

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    It's not another server, nor even another world within on the same server. It's just a location on the exact same map.


    The problem isn't necessarily the original post; It's actually a moderately high quality one for the section. The problem is, that it's been suggested dozens of times in the past, and been debunked each and every time. People are tired of writing down the same things over and over because the op doesn't do research.



    There's a few things you should consider with this:

    Does housing add anything important or essential to the game? Not really. Wynn is an mmorpg, so if anything, it encourages people to sit still instead of playing through the game's proper content. The only times I've seen housing work in an mmorpg is when a game's content is already utterly bland and meaningless.

    Lore wise, would an adventurer who's new to the provinces, and is constantly on the move, need a house? Most likely not, and it wouldn't make much sense for someone who's lost their entire past and money to be settling into a house. From your description, it seems more like a social player service embedded into the game with added benefits, than a part of the game. Right about all of it could be replaced by the game's bank, forums and discord which are already existing things. I do like the idea of guild halls though, since it makes sense in the context of Wynn, and the fact that they'd be a potential money sink for the game.

    What about the monetary side then? Well, servers this big are expensive to keep up, and are already under heavy stress from Wynn in their current state. Needing more of them or even stronger ones might not be too great if, the server has plans of staying up.

    Is it possible from a technical aspect? Housing could be, but would require a lot of developer time and effort to run in an efficient way, which could be used for more important things, such as fixing bugs, cleaning old code, and adding features which the community has been waiting on for years by now. Your method of housing couldn't happen in main worlds though, since any house upgrade would require several copies of hundreds of houses, which is quite obviously too much work for the content team. They'd also need to be updated for up to a hundred worlds at once, which would not only tax the servers and lag clients due to block updates, but also mess up with any pre-planned designs and looks of places, unless right about every town you intend to have housing in was redesigned from scratch. Not to mention the fact, that a few hundred houses aren't enough for a few dozen thousands of players.

    Has it been suggested before, regardless of all of this? Yes, way too many times:

    https://forums.wynncraft.com/threads/player-house-guild-base.227240/
    https://forums.wynncraft.com/threads/add-purchasable-homes.224139/
    https://forums.wynncraft.com/threads/100k-housing-suggestion.221355/
    https://forums.wynncraft.com/threads/guild-housing.203830/
    https://forums.wynncraft.com/threads/player-housing.199796/
    https://forums.wynncraft.com/threads/housing-ganon-approved.191445/
    https://forums.wynncraft.com/threads/housing.187274/
    https://forums.wynncraft.com/threads/housing-in-wynncraft.179869/
    https://forums.wynncraft.com/threads/a-damned-housing-idea.179781/
    https://forums.wynncraft.com/threads/housing-world-area.163591/
    https://forums.wynncraft.com/threads/housing.163089/
    https://forums.wynncraft.com/threads/add-housing.159511/
    https://forums.wynncraft.com/threads/housing-quest-and-mechanic.126503/
    https://forums.wynncraft.com/threads/player-housing.119718/
    https://forums.wynncraft.com/threads/add-housing.119584/
    https://forums.wynncraft.com/threads/i-seen-tons-of-housing-ideas-what-about-guild-halls.108691/
    https://forums.wynncraft.com/threads/player-housing.106997/
    https://forums.wynncraft.com/threads/player-owned-housing.94539/
    https://forums.wynncraft.com/threads/housing.94109/
    https://forums.wynncraft.com/threads/housing.91691/
    https://forums.wynncraft.com/thread...builders-and-people-asking-for-housing.89384/
    https://forums.wynncraft.com/threads/homes-why-not.224171/
    https://forums.wynncraft.com/threads/buyable-plots-for-houses.241257/

    Next time, I'd recommend reading through https://forums.wynncraft.com/threads/how-to-suggest.174609/ if you want to avoid negative feedback
     
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  11. Mmm

    Mmm Well-Known Adventurer VIP+

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    There is no logical reason for houses, as In real life you typically use houses to store things, You have the bank to do that ingame, Therefore making any sort of "House" Ingame 100% redundant.


    While I would find the idea amazing, and add a new dynamic to the game, The server doesn't and cannot handle such and endeavor.
     
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    ParkourTNT Wynncraft has houses in the 1.20 update :D HERO

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    I love housing.
    I wish they will add housing.
    Maybe after 5-10 years?

    Note: I'm not joking :)
     
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  13. Kheya

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    ParkourTNT Wynncraft has houses in the 1.20 update :D HERO

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  15. FluffyBread

    FluffyBread Bone Hunter CHAMPION

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    Now i understand the part of "server need more income to keep running"
    This is where my idea give server developer benefits
    When you open crates, there will be a chance you get housing decoration things, MORE MONEY!
     
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    tig "Because EO parkour killed my grandma, OK???"

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    im pretty sure most people that give a shit about crates already have ranks and get then daily
     
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    You're totally avoiding the lore-wise feedback and solely talking about the economic and coding side.

    Don't you get it? Housing does not fit in Wynncraft and 3 people have told you already. The main reason game developers don't approve of this idea is because it doesn't fit the game anyway!

    Many people who suggest backpacks, housing and other common ideas, don't think about the lore and the coding of the game. Their 'unique ideas' are simply created like this: "<this thing> isn't in the game, I'm new to the game but I'm sure it's great to suggest"

    I don't know if you're like that, but many other suggestors were like that. Their suggestions have been debunked and criticised many times on many scales.
     
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    FluffyBread Bone Hunter CHAMPION

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    I'm not avoiding anything here, i try to give you guys the best idea how to make this a real thing as possible, THAT'S WHAT DEBATE IS SUPPOSED TO BE

    Sure some people disagree my idea, but that doesn't mean i just drop dead instantly. Stay with your idea and stay strong, if you dream, dream big!
    Backpack is stupid idea, but housing is totally possible, i have seen other server done it without problem (i wont name the server)

    I'm not new to the server, i have the passion to see server grow and get better, if i just sit here to spam one idea my post would only has 2 lines and i'm done, but no, i sit here take time to write out the idea from root to tip.
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    i have see a HERO bought over 100 crates, and your point is..?
     
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    Shots Yellow Rose Enthusiast Media HERO

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    Saying this doesn't back up your argument whatsoever. If you're not going to name the server and just randomly say this, everything is up for speculation. For all we know, this so called server that has added in housing could be Hypixel for example, which is an entirely different genre compared to Wynn.
     
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    ParkourTNT Wynncraft has houses in the 1.20 update :D HERO

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    Hello!
    Just wanted to say something about the argument of "It doesn't make any sense lore-wise. Its useless. Its hard to implement"

    1. It doesn't make any sense lore-wise:
    First, I would like to say that this is the worst argument that comes against housing (maybe).
    I mean really? there are a lot of things that are in Wynncraft that doesn't make any sense for a soldier like how they can mining/cooking/cutting wood/fishing or how he is fine with killing mobs for the whole 3~ days without stopping or making hundreds of items on one day or going to some very cold place without gear or going to molten hights with full gear for weeks or not eating forever etc.
    Well, you might still say that a soldier shouldn't have a home. But, I can say with confident that in fact it does make sense for a soldier to have a home, you might ask why?
    Well, there is no need to give a soldier that just show up a home, but after he have a lot of achievement (somethin like saving Wynn from Wynnexcavation) and become expert, it won't be even strange for someone is high stander is him to get a home (on troms because your an official citcen).

    2. Its useless: A feature that doesn't give you advantages isn't nesecarly a useless feature, just like how guilds are they don't give you advantages but its a good money sink, they can make housing a money sink too.

    3. Its hard to implement: To be honest I dont know anything about this side.

    This is just my opinion soooo yeah.

    I remember how mining/cutting wood suggestion were said to be unfite to Wynncraft by most of the players but after 3-2 years we have mining here.

    In the end, I'm not here to try to convince anyone. I just wanted to express how much I love housing.
     
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