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[items] Cascade Ws

Discussion in 'Feedback' started by Jorts, Nov 25, 2018.

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  1. Jorts

    Jorts Turtlecoin Savant HERO

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    Hey IM's and fellow Builders,

    @Madkurre has brought to my attention that Cascade's walkspeed exceeds Morrowind's walkspeed, which should not happen because Morrowind is an Air weapon and Cascade is rainbow. Since I've notice this and saw that the IM's could be open to suggestions, I decided to make one. Since Cascade runs a theme of base 30 on most of its stats you simply cannot just nerf the walkspeed alone. Which is why I actively decided to make a more fitting change.

    Cascade

    (Values all determined in base stat)

    Exploding: 30% -> 23%
    Spell Damage: 30% -> 23%
    Walk Speed: 30% -> 23%
    Melee Damage: 30 -> 23

    Simplified Data: https://wynndata.tk/ci/Custom-950316447
    (Basic Rainbow build) Pre Change: https://wynndata.tk/s/W5KZhw
    (Basic Rainbow build) Post Change: https://wynndata.tk/s/xcvEX8

    With this change, Cascade would keep its theme and would stay on baseline as well as not be overpowered in walk speed compared to an air weapon. The Damage change as well would barely be noticible. The only other way to fix this issue is to have Morrowind be walkspeed oriented and is a whole rework in and of itself. Please leave your thoughts and suggestions below, I am in no way an IM and I know that the damage change might seem ridiculous but I aspire to be one and id really like some guidance with it.

    (Edit: fixed incorrect values and rebalanced new cascade. the change in damage is less than 100 and its overall balanced)​

    Sincerely,
    Alpha​
     
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  2. mantidmadness

    mantidmadness Well-Known Adventurer CHAMPION

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    ye i like this because morrowwind is air so it sould be faster
     
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  3. Druser

    Druser ele defs don't matter HERO Featured Wynncraftian

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    It sort of makes sense, but it would be a pretty substantial nerf (particularly the spell damage).
     
  4. Jorts

    Jorts Turtlecoin Savant HERO

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    not at all, theres only a difference of 100 total spell damage
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    in all honesty cascade is a bit overpowered anyways compared to the other leg wands of its level
     
  5. Madkurre

    Madkurre construction worker HERO

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    mantid approved; it's already in the item changelog
     
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    CountBurn Hackysack? HERO

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    "We do not add item name/design suggestions. If anything, making this thread actually reduced your chances."
     
  7. SUPER M

    SUPER M shoop CHAMPION

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    the npc meme is pretty old now
     
  8. CountBurn

    CountBurn Hackysack? HERO

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    you going to get mad if this one doesnt get moved to vip plaza :grin::frowning::frowning::smirkcat::dizzy::sweat::smirkcat::smirkcat::sob::sunglasses::smilingimp::smilingimp::sweat::sweat::tearsofjoy::flushed::fearful::fearful::expressionless::sunglasses:
     
  9. CoolVictor2002

    CoolVictor2002 Dead meme expert,cyberbullied by NicBOMB CHAMPION

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    we don't need another nerf :(
     
  10. tig

    tig "Because EO parkour killed my grandma, OK???"

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    1, This should be in feedback
    2, Item suggestions aren't accepted
    3, Just buff Marrowind
     
  11. Jorts

    Jorts Turtlecoin Savant HERO

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    1) my bad
    2) there was a discussion in the discord where they asked what we think a fix could be, this is it.
    3) buffing morrowind would make it way overpowered due to the fact that cascade has 30 base ws, and in order for morrowind to beat that number we would have to give it more than 30 base, meaning its highest id would be over 40 which is broken because it already has good stats.
     
  12. SilverMirror

    SilverMirror Retired IM HERO

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    We don't take item suggestions aka "make this new item i want it in the game", but we very much appreciate feedbacks on items and rebalance ideas coz we are very busy with the new update coming in just under 34 years and there is only around 10 of us in the team overlooking 3000 items. We undoubtedly will miss certain balance issues, so we rely very heavily on community bringing well-crafted feedbacks and rebalances ideas on items to us if all of us wants the game balance to be better.

    That said, whether we actually go through with it is another thing, listening =/= complying, top 10 community misconception. If you also think you want to do more with your ideas, apply the item team.
     
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