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Guilds [guild Fortresses]

Discussion in 'General Suggestions' started by Insensible, Aug 17, 2018.

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  1. A Human

    A Human Definitely not an alien. VIP+

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    The strategy of Wynn lies in different thinfs than what you do in combat, instead in your build and stuff like that.

    No need to say someone ‘doesnt want to think’, that’s just an insult and is in no way constructive.
     
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    Insensible Travelled Adventurer

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    Not it will not. Fighting against the AI and having to conquer the Fortress will require an entirely new strategy.

    I said, on death the items will be stored inside the vault. But now I changed the entire death system so you just keep items.
     
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  3. H0Y

    H0Y H0Y HERO

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    When some of the criticism is out of context and the others are jokes, aka flips, one is giving actual advice, and two question if you even have enough experience to make a suggestion like this

    Btw i don have time for top i go zzz
    wish 4 computer and not est ok i real zz
     
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  4. A Human

    A Human Definitely not an alien. VIP+

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    My bad, I misunderstood. Sounds better now.

    Also, while some people are giving poor feedback, just ignore it, don’t get angry.
     
  5. Jalapeno9

    Jalapeno9 Shadow of my former self HERO

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    Is this housing idea? (Or somewhat like) because it has thing guild fortress. And its very like housing idea.
     
  6. H0Y

    H0Y H0Y HERO

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    You still do not address the point Wynn stated, the spreading of fortresses over Wynncraft is a bad idea. All you do is just change the amount of fortresses there are, which is still a bad idea. Like many of Wynn's points, you also did not answer the point that fortresses are lore/world breaking.
    Number one, directly insulting with names does not help you win the argument. Number two, Wynn only wanted to show you the extreme amount of things wrong with the suggestion, not give you advice to fix it. His "little brain" does process you wanted advice but his "little brain" thought your suggestion had so many flaws and bad design, it was unable to be fixed so thus should be deleted.
    Except it was a bad example. If it needs fixing or should not be there, fix it or delete it.
    Let me tell you something Wynn never mentioned. Forced teamwork is a bad idea. (ex. ??? and Bob's Tomb.) Also, ironically, having a bullet sponge that does damage to you and nothing else is bad game design. But how about the fortresses layout? Lets assume they are all each are different in layout? Eventually, the right builds will be crafted to beat these fortresses. Since the types of mobs that defend it are the same every time, the same set of builds will be used to take it out.
    For the first message, most of the community aspects are in guilds and in discords. The shouts are just fun messages and can also be used as advertising, mostly advertising. Most people who want to communicate with others and interact with others will get a forum account and join a guild. It is rare for people to not learn about forums by the time they can join most guilds.

    Example of community welcoming people is Llevigar Docks, an actual section on the forum of the community welcoming new people. About this thread being an example. We thought you as just any new person on the forums and offered criticism for your idea. However, because of your refusal to accept this criticism and general unnecessary attacks, is which is why we "failed to welcome you."
    The way you put it makes it seems like you are don't care about the criticism. Your messages beg to differ.

    That is a valid point to think the guild system is boring. Some people enjoy it while others doesn't. It is also completely justified for you to make a suggestion. What is not justified is the toxic response back.

    Let me debunk this claim.
    1. flips was making a joke because of how housing suggestions are a joke due to usually how low quality and bad for the game is
    2. this was actual criticism for when you used to have that extremely punishing death system that lag can happen and screw you over. Lag is a common occurrence in Wynn for most people (especially in wars) but you disregarded it by saying I don't get lag so no one can.
    3. criticizing how bad the death system is
    4. his reaction to a claim you just made due to how bad it was
    5. questioning your ability on making a suggestion if to you do not know the "exact" amount of people to take down a territory
    6. responding to your claim that lag is not a problem for people because you do not get lag
    7. same as 6
    8. telling you need to also keep in mind if your suggestion could really benefit the game after hearing the criticism you get

    Ironically, this "hate" about the death system ended up making you get rid of it.

    If you have limited experience in certain mechanics of the game, why do you reject the word of several people who DO know how these mechanics work. We countless of times told you how these such mechanics worked but you rejected them and said they are not valid. We are trying to help, but you turn us away and insult us.
     
  7. flip

    flip Chef HERO

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    No one is hating one you or your thread. My comment was just me joking around, and if that did offend you, I'm sorry. But as for the rest of the people here, some of them are actually trying to give you criticism on your thread, you're ignoring the genuine criticism and instead firing back. Not to mention, if there are people who are making jokes on your thread, don't try and flame them, just ignore them. Like you said yourself, you don't want any arguments, but you seem to be flaming them quite a bit for mostly satirical content. If they provide nothing for your thread, then don't acknowledge them.

    Plus you say you have limited experience on the mechanics of this game, might I suggest you learn a little bit of the mechanics before suggesting, as this will help you in the future.
    Also as @H0Y0Y0Y0Y0B0Y put it:
    There are people here who are trying their best to help you and when you do get said help, take note and think "this might help me in the future" or "so this is where i went wrong" rather than rejecting their points as invalid.
     
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    seeksery Wybel Photographer HERO

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    Have you ever tried soloing a war?
    A good plan is useless without a good build.
    To put it in perspective:
    snipers have ~80000 hp and do ~3000 damage
    honor guards have ~120000 hp and do ~1000 damage
    bishops have ~80000 hp and heal ~40000 hp to enemies near them

    Forgot to mention: wars have a time limit of 20 minutes
    With your level 13, the best a strategy could do is survive for 20 minutes and maybe kill 1 or 2 mobs
     
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  9. Quint

    Quint least estrogenated scripter HERO

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    I don't hate this. It's a lot more original than most suggestions in a similar vein and has some unique and cool ideas. I think there should be a way to make warring for a guild fortress territory harder so people can actually get comfortable in them. +1 from me
     
  10. Theeef

    Theeef Owner of The Crossroads CHAMPION

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    I love this idea. Some values would need to be adjusted and war mechanics need some work but overall it’s cool.
     
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